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    kidalutz's Avatar
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    Sigrun Helasdottir
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    *sniffles* The Dancer that could have been...
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    Ordoric Ambrosuis
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    i always thought sam would have fit well as a maiming class
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    Zeota Fourier
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    Rogue Lv 70
    Another potential candidate for both sets: Beastmaster! In XI, BST could use several heavy armor pieces that DRG could, plus several light armor pieces.
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    Myon Miya
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    Tonberry
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    Viper Lv 100
    One possible reason they're keeping DRG and NIN separate on the left side for now is that it makes gear slightly easier to design. It's hard to make generic shared gear that looks appropriate for SAM/MNK and DRG at the same time, since the former are more light armoured strikers while the dragoon aesthetic is more heavy armoured. Same for ninja vs ranged gear.

    You'd think that they would jump at the chance to condense the gear categories a little more since it would give them less work to do. That they haven't means that they probably do care about aesthetic differentiation a little bit. Makes it more likely that they'll pick future jobs based on who can share gear with the scouting and maiming categories too, just to even things out a bit.
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    K'ahli K'uhla'tor
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    Balmung
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Myon88 View Post
    One possible reason they're keeping DRG and NIN separate on the left side for now is that it makes gear slightly easier to design. It's hard to make generic shared gear that looks appropriate for SAM/MNK and DRG at the same time, since the former are more light armoured strikers while the dragoon aesthetic is more heavy armoured. Same for ninja vs ranged gear.

    You say that but the devs really don't care at all about that when assigning models to gear. Generic Gear models are the norm, not something they avoid. Monk gear in the past has shared models with the tanks (Hellfire Sets) and Ninja frequently shares gear appearance with the ranged. Dragoon occasionally gets special snowflake armor models to itself but more often than not it's just a recolor of the striking set.

    At this point the only mechanical result of the Maiminf/Striking/Scouting split is that it's mechanically more of a pain to be an Omni-Melee than it is to be an Omni-player for any other role for no reason, not even job aesthetic.

    Think about it:
    Fending: Works for the 3 tanks.
    Casting: Works for the 3 casters
    Healing: Works for the 3 healers.
    Striking: Works for Monk/Samurai.
    Aiming: Works for Bard/Machinist
    Scouting: Works for Ninja.
    Maiming: Works for Dragoon.

    Scouting and Maiming Gear at this point just make it less cost effective to invest in gearing a DRG/NIN than it is to gear a caster, a tank or a healer. They really should fold Maiming and Striking gear into one category (either bringing Monk and Samurai's physical defense up or Dragoon's down because the days of Dragoon trading Magical Defense for more Physical Defense are gone) and fold Scouting into Aiming, it would clear up the loot tables and make Omni-roling less of a hassle for Melee.
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    Last edited by SpeckledBurd; 04-03-2018 at 12:09 PM.

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    Ciaran Riagan
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    Balmung
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    Dancer Lv 90
    If Blue Mage is DPS rather than Tank, then I think it would fit for Maiming gear, if it needed more magic defense they can put that on their weapon, whatever that may be.

    Foebreaker/Breaker from FFXII would also fit the Maiming gear well since their job was to weaken the opponent with their break abilities, or 'maim' them.
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    Seraphus Highwynn
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    Gilgamesh
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    Lancer Lv 100
    Samurai would have made a perfect Maiming class, and Dancer could have been made Aiming, as they would use Chakrams.
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    Tal Young
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    Cerberus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    They should do away with Maiming and Aiming tbh.

    Roll Dragoon into Striking and Bard/Machinist into Scouting.

    Fending: Heavy armor
    Striking: Medium armor
    Scouting: Light armor
    Casting & Healing: Cloth armor

    Neater than what we have now, makes gearing alt jobs less of a pain.
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    Last edited by Jandor; 04-09-2018 at 04:57 PM. Reason: typo

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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    They should do away with Maiming and Aiming tbh.

    Role Dragoon into Striking and Bard/Machinist into Scouting.

    Fending: Heavy armor
    Striking: Medium armor
    Scouting: Light armor
    Casting & Healing: Cloth armor

    Neater than what we have now, makes gearing alt jobs less of a pain.
    Couldn't we just axe the suffixes altogether at that point?
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    Tal Young
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Couldn't we just axe the suffixes altogether at that point?
    I like them, just personal preference though.

    Preference is why I said BRD/MCH into NIN rather than NIN into BRD/MCH as well, I think Scouting sounds better than Aiming.
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