Another "Maiming" class?

[Luin]

Except that's not longer quite the case. Dragoons now have the same magic defense as other melee jobs, but still higher physical defense. Honestly I feel like they could just combine their gear sets with Samurai and Monk at this point and eliminate maiming as a set entirely.

god no we don't want MORE skill speed.

Scouting and Maiming Gear at this point just make it less cost effective to invest in gearing a DRG/NIN than it is to gear a caster, a tank or a healer. They really should fold Maiming and Striking gear into one category (either bringing Monk and Samurai's physical defense up or Dragoon's down because the days of Dragoon trading Magical Defense for more Physical Defense are gone) and fold Scouting into Aiming, it would clear up the loot tables and make Omni-roling less of a hassle for Melee.

Yeah, but you're still going to take a DRG and a NIN.

Besides that, MCH and SAM were added as DLC. Previously all physical DPS had their exclusive sets.

All it means is we'll see at least 1 maiming/scouting DPS next year, if they have 1:1:1 like they did in Heavensward.

Couldn't we just axe the suffixes altogether at that point?

I don't trust 75% of players to not equip monk gear when tanking

[Shurrikhan]

I don't trust 75% of players to not equip monk gear when tanking

Axing the suffixes does not remove armor classes; it just means you don't see "of fending" at the end of the name of every plate set...

I like them, just personal preference though.

Preference is why I said BRD/MCH into NIN rather than NIN into BRD/MCH as well, I think Scouting sounds better than Aiming.

I like them so long as there isn't going to be a non-tank ever permitted to wear full plate or whatever the heaviest armor type is in the collection.

And yeah, I've wanted that ever since Scouting came out. Sounds fully applicable to Archers while also just sounding outright... better.

[Jandor]

I like them so long as there isn't going to be a non-tank ever permitted to wear full plate or whatever the heaviest armor type is in the collection.

And yeah, I've wanted that ever since Scouting came out. Sounds fully applicable to Archers while also just sounding outright... better.

Nah, I'd still have them restricted by role. Tank, Healer, Caster, etc.

[Dzian]

Scouting is current NIN-only, just like maiming is DRG-only.

Maiming - DRG
Sriking - MNK/SAM
Scouting - NIN
Aiming - BRD/MCH
Casting - BLM/SMN/RDM
Fending - WAR/PLD/DRK
Healing - WHM/SCH/AST

Right side nin brd mch usually share aiming accessories.

To be honest though I've always wished there was more individual gear. And less generic shared gear....

Gives warriors gear that's warrior themed and dark gear that's dark themed. Rather than just one set that's not really themed for any of them.

Same with everything else. Even striking now. The 320 genta striking set looks great for Sam but totally doesn't fit a monk thematically.

[EllieShadeflare]

Right side nin brd mch usually share aiming accessories.

To be honest though I've always wished there was more individual gear. And less generic shared gear....

Gives warriors gear that's warrior themed and dark gear that's dark themed. Rather than just one set that's not really themed for any of them.

Same with everything else. Even striking now. The 320 genta striking set looks great for Sam but totally doesn't fit a monk thematically.

That's kinda what the Eureka sets are for now. The generic sets are for a general theme and for more easily balancable stats.

[TaiyoShikasu]

Right side nin brd mch usually share aiming accessories.

To be honest though I've always wished there was more individual gear. And less generic shared gear....

Gives warriors gear that's warrior themed and dark gear that's dark themed. Rather than just one set that's not really themed for any of them.

Same with everything else. Even striking now. The 320 genta striking set looks great for Sam but totally doesn't fit a monk thematically.

To be honest, none of the Genta/Genji gear is all too thematic.

[Gaj85]

Right side nin brd mch usually share aiming accessories.

To be honest though I've always wished there was more individual gear. And less generic shared gear....

Gives warriors gear that's warrior themed and dark gear that's dark themed. Rather than just one set that's not really themed for any of them.

Same with everything else. Even striking now. The 320 genta striking set looks great for Sam but totally doesn't fit a monk thematically.

I think that's what they are doing with the Eureka gear, as each set can only be worn by that particular class. All those sets are the upgraded versions of the 290 stuff you get when you complete the level 70 class quest. As of now the gear is capped at 350 (355 for the weapon). You can keep improving it though as they release more Eureka chapters.

[Makeda]

To be honest though I've always wished there was more individual gear. And less generic shared gear....

I'm in the opposite camp there. And wasn't the more individual last expansion and it became less so with Stormblood?

The more 'individual' it becomes, the harder it is to keep up with more than one job. A lot of people want to be able to be flexible as the needs of their group shift. If your static is on 'boss X' that works well with a WAR and PLD, but boss Y works better with a PLD and DRK... do you tell your buddy that plays WAR to go sit out, and pug in a DRK... or does the WAR just hit the button to change jobs and you start the ready check?

(and you can basically substitute out any other combo there as well - different healers, different DPS, etc... I raid in WoW... and we do have moments where somebody "volunteers", or gets "volunteered"... to log out... and sometimes to just log out and then log back in on an alt... A major point of class flexibility here is to prevent that drama... but that only works if it is realistic for people to be also geared in multiple jobs).

As for gear not fitting a class theme... I'm just going to show up in my Coeurl Bikini glamour anyway... and if you want a glamour that looks very 'Paladin' go get it and use it...
- I'd support the idea of a whole lot of class specific level 1 and 'max level but 0-stat raid dropped' gear, who's only purpose is for glamouring in themes.

[Zeota]

If they ever rolled out dancer, I suspect it would get scouting gear (assuming it's not a healer).

[Lord_Zlatan]

Why they can't just rebrand it as attack power I'll never know