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    Lin Kreiss
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    AST needs an extra instant cast damage spell

    In contrast to HW what they have basically done is:
    -Removed Aero (18s) due to the purge of the cross class system
    -Increased the duration of Combust to 30s from 18s
    -Significantly increased the amount of ogcds
    -Increased the mp cost of A.Benefic making it no longer as viable for double weaving or movement.

    At the moment we only have one instant cast damage spell every 30s which makes the job very clunky to play due to the massive overload of ogcds AST has now.
    Whm and Sch both have it a lot easier to get around their ogcds. Aero's duration is only 18s and it also has its initial 30 potency on hit. Not to mention Regen only costing 840 mp compared to AST's 1440. Sch has Ruin 2 and Miasma 2 giving it a really easy time.

    I propose SE gives AST something like Ruin 2 (bring Stella back as an instant cast?) or a dot that has a weaker potency than your Malefic 3 to counter the majority of the clipping issue. Nothing job breaking but would make it more fun and engaging to play.
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    Selena Schwarz
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    Quote Originally Posted by LinKreiss View Post
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    Give everyone else more insta-heals? There's balance for you.
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    Ellia Lombardia
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    make us choose between lord and lady of crowns.
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    Estellise Valesti
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    Wasn't Stella removed because it was trash? During HW I don't think there was ever any reason to use Stella outside inflicting Heavy. I suppose if AST had it now, even at it's awful 100 potency, they could still use it for weaving? Still pretty weak and terrible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LinKreiss View Post
    derp
    Asp benefit also heals regen doesn't.
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    How about letting us choose for Lord or lady bring back steal for a instant cast 140 potency
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Isn't Stella just break?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Isn't Stella just break?
    Yes but I meant that they could bring it back as an instant cast spell without the Heavy to weave ogcds with. It would be an easier thing to do since they have the spell animation and skill icon for it already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Isn't Stella just break?
    Stella was, sadly, better than Break. That's how awful Break is. Stella was trash yet Break is worse.

    Stella wasn't an instant cast originally, but if they changed it to not require a cast time it might be okay. Stella was originally 100 potency with a 40% Heavy. Break is literally half that at 50 potency and 20% Heavy.
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    Last edited by VanilleFang; 03-28-2018 at 04:31 AM.

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    Lorelei Diangelo
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    Wasn't Stella removed because it was trash? During HW I don't think there was ever any reason to use Stella outside inflicting Heavy. I suppose if AST had it now, even at it's awful 100 potency, they could still use it for weaving? Still pretty weak and terrible.
    Stella was decent in PVP, I used it a ton. Sadly, with the new PVP changes there was no need for it to exist anymore, so it was removed. Beautiful animation gone to waste.

    Tbh though I'd be fine with Combust II and Combust I being made separate again (maybe both instant-cast to deal with the clipping issue AST has with cards? idk, I'd rather cards just not be so animation-locky myself, so that you can fit the card draw AND use into a single oGCD). It seems like semantics but upkeeping two DoTs IS more interesting than upkeeping one long-ass one and spamming a filler in between. AST DPS is some of the most boring garbage on the planet, which sucks because you're forced into it so often due to encounter design.
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