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    Some possibly controversial thoughts about a dancer addition

    Alright...I am fully in support of the dancer role as well as many others here in the forums. The type of gear that dancers could get, their potential to be a unique role (support, as a lot of us would like to break the holy trinity that this game has), and most of all, it is definitely one of those classic jobs that could work quite well in Eorzea.

    Except...

    ...well, given the disappointment about certain clothing sets, or how some of the hairstyles cater to female characters, I feel as though the dancers should be exclusive to female NPCs. Which leads to another question - should it? There hasn't really been a single class/job where the majority of animations are different from gender. Still...seeing a gigantic Roe shaking his hips while buffing the entire party gives me 'Shrek is Love' vibes. Kinda don't want that image...but now that I've typed it, that image is now stuck in my head >.<

    So, as is my habit of putting up discussions that garner some thoughts, what do you think of this? Do you think dancers should be uni-sex? Or should they be exclusive to females, and male avatars get a role similar to it, and if so, what role would that be?
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    Rinuko's Avatar
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    Lele Inoch
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    Worked fine in XI so i don't see the issue in a potential addition in XIV?
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    Moro Murasaki
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    I think given the distinctly un-ladylike stances I have to be in as a tank or melee dps that some flowy animations from a dancer should only begin to tip the scales back a bit. Seriously WAR and DRG specifically have quite manly poses, one of the things I enjoy about WHM the most these days is twirling around and floating like a butterfly.

    I think separating classes by gender has no place in an mmo really, why bother? Some people want a tiny female Auri warrior. Some people want a hulking male Roe dancer. I say our character customization is stunted enough as it is, why lock more things behind genders?

    Plus, from a purely practical standpoint, if Dancer was female and there was a male equivalent... how does that work with fantasias? "Oh, sorry, I've only been a boy for like a week so I don't know how to play BLU yet," seems sketchy.
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    Cynehild Westknight
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    If a lala can be a tank, a roe can be a dancer. Also, maybe some people like the idea of a big roe booty shaking it in the dungeon...

    As for clothing, yeah males are going to get the short end of the stick there.
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    Reimu Hakurei
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    The only games that gate classes behind female characters are Korean fan service-y games. FFXIV's fan service is a bit more refined than that, so I don't think SE is going to risk the media backlash that such a decision would entail.
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    Hashmael Lightswain
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    You say "unique role" and all I hear is "required in all content."

    What kind of drugs you gotta be on to be that optimistic that they'd completely tear apart the established system any time soon ever?
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    Booty shaking Roes...

    Whelp, there goes my dreams for, like, ever.

    On a serious note, I thought about it. While it does seem pretty odd to me, I'm still fairly new to the MMO landscape, and I've heard about certain classes being restricted by race and gender. Obviously, I love that FFXIV doesn't do that - in fact, it continues to be one of my main attractions. Moro's comments about fantasia makes sense. I imagine were dancer gender locks were implemented, either fantasias would be restricted, or the dancer role would be if you had it unlocked. Again, it was just a wandering thought that I had and decided to share with the forum just to get some thoughts. No harm intended on my end.
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    Still...seeing a gigantic Roe shaking his hips while buffing the entire party gives me 'Shrek is Love' vibes. Kinda don't want that image...but now that I've typed it, that image is now stuck in my head >.<
    LOL I'd love to see that myself In answer to your question, I'd like to see both genders get equal treatment, with various styles of dances... pretty much what Moro said really
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    Booty shaking Roes...
    Stupid sexy roes
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    Lho Polaali
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    I've heard about certain classes being restricted by race and gender.
    The whole point of this particular MMO is that you can be anything you want on any one character. My main Hyur guy can be the flimsiest glass canon of a BLM ever and one job change later go toe to toe with Eorzea's nasties as a MNK, and that's true even after a joke Fantasia change into a popoto. My lady Elezen is a DRG and my fem Au Ra is a PLD while my male Miqo is a WHM. The ability to be whatever I want on whomever I want is a big part of this game's charm for me, and one of their own admitted selling points so they really shouldn't do that nor do I see them doing it.
    Also I feel duty bound to bring up the already existing disparity in the favor of female characters, especially since you brought up outfits. Just because it make you personally uncomfortable doesn't mean the rest of us should be restricted to accommodate it. No worries though, judging by how long it's taking them to give us the male bunny outfit, I'd say the devs largely agree with you.
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