Eureka - The Time Sink

[Zojha]

The older relics took forever to get just one.

I'd wait before making a comparison.

It's at i355. The grindiest steps in the Anima have always been the ones that put it on par with the raid weapon, 200-210 (Unidentifieds), 230-240 (Umbrite+Sands), 260-270 (Light Farming).

Chances are, the worst step is yet to come.

[Mholito]

I'd wait before making a comparison.

It's at i355. The grindiest steps in the Anima have always been the ones that put it on par with the raid weapon, 200-210 (Unidentifieds), 230-240 (Umbrite+Sands), 260-270 (Light Farming).

Chances are, the worst step is yet to come.

Even so, this is still the fastest of the "short" grinds. Some people managed to get every single weapon in less than a week. No matter how much they nolifed to achieve that, the fact remains that this has never happened before.

[Niqote]

I'm going to be completely honest, I don't like Eureka because I've already been excluded from it. I'm a student with two jobs, XIV is my main game, with this recent update, because I couldn't devote my life to it, I've fallen too far behind to find a party. I can't just solo level, because that takes hours and hours that I don't have, at least with Savage raids I could schedule a group to run with in the middle of the night, but there's just nothing for this type on content. More and more I feel excluded just because I can't devote my life to the game..

I'm not trying to be rude when I say this.
People who say things similar to this simply do not know how Eureka works.
Before you panic, try and find real information, ask around or google it.

Not to mention; your concern is about content that is designed to take time, something you are poor in, of course you will take longer.
So the natural conclusion is that you need to fit in as much progression as you can in a limited amount of time. Now luckily for you, you can get EXP bombs in the form of NMs (The way everyone else has leveled by the way)

Simply put: You want to spawn an NM, you need to kill its placeholders.
Who are the place holders? Google (And Reddit) to the rescue, thanks to many players testing and figuring it all out~!

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...n_eureka_kill/

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...and_locations/

Personally I prefer to use the map.

Just kill whatever placeholder monster you can (solo or in a group) until the NM appears, invite the people who inevitably shout for invites and kill it together! BAM! A chunk of Crystals, Lockboxes and an Experience bomb will be your reward! Don't forget to change your element to suit the boss, and don't be afraid to change to Defence if the NM is a bit higher then you are, you'll still get gold if you are in a party.

And this is current and before the next update, where they will bring in Level sync, a new solo content and sync down everyone's elemental wheel with the NMs lvl

^^)/ So don't feel disheartened people. Eureka is a hunt!

[Vstarstruck]

I'm not trying to be rude when I say this.
People who say things similar to this simply do not know how Eureka works.
Before you panic, try and find real information, ask around or google it.

Not to mention; your concern is about content that is designed to take time, something you are poor in, of course you will take longer.
So the natural conclusion is that you need to fit in as much progression as you can in a limited amount of time. Now luckily for you, you can get EXP bombs in the form of NMs (The way everyone else has leveled by the way)

Simply put: You want to spawn an NM, you need to kill its placeholders.
Who are the place holders? Google (And Reddit) to the rescue, thanks to many players testing and figuring it all out~!

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...n_eureka_kill/

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...and_locations/

Personally I prefer to use the map.

Just kill whatever placeholder monster you can (solo or in a group) until the NM appears, invite the people who inevitably shout for invites and kill it together! BAM! A chunk of Crystals, Lockboxes and an Experience bomb will be your reward! Don't forget to change your element to suit the boss, and don't be afraid to change to Defence if the NM is a bit higher then you are, you'll still get gold if you are in a party.

And this is current and before the next update, where they will bring in Level sync, a new solo content and sync down everyone's elemental wheel with the NMs lvl

^^)/ So don't feel disheartened people. Eureka is a hunt!

That is a big problem with it though, it has very slow start up time, then at the end grinding is a joke, it is the complete reverse what progress is.

For example, lets say it takes someone 9 days, 2 hrs per day to get level 20, then 1 day to farm
What it should be is get max level in 1.5-2 days then farming for the relics 7.5-8 days.

Even though the total time is the same, situation 2 will appeal to more people then situation 1. You shouldn't be presenting players a mountain to start off with (Come to think of it i learned such analogy on the Japanese forum) It is not good to give players a mountain to climb to start off on. I have seen NO GAME be it main (like FFXI leveling) or sub event (side content like it is in ffxiv) that does this. That is why a lot of people are turned off by it, HELL even music has rules like this:
https://youtu.be/2lQVG7Gf7I4?t=342
This is a major turn off because you are presenting too much of a grind at the start, you need to introduce a small bit at a time, in all the games I played in everything I seen, this is the first time I seen a problem like this.

[Meghann]

I work full-time, my partner is studying at uni and also works full time, together we have joined up with two good friends in our FC that are on the same timezone and they also both work full-time, since release, we have reached level 20 and completed two full sets of relic gear and 3 full weaps and that is only playing Eureka of an evening after work - it's definitely not that hard, and that's only with a party of 4 people so not even the most efficient way of playing, once you get past the first few levels it does get faster and faster to obtain crystals, I'd suggest just spamming LFG once you get inside if you can't find a group on PF.

[Anarnee]

If I can get three characters 10+ in a week and a half, you can find time to get one character leveled in there over time. Now that I'm at this point, it has cut my weekly mendacity grind down to two days, when I was getting burned out from capping from roulettes before.

I've heard this argument from a few people, even my BF, and I watch them play and do other things like roulettes, and if they put the amount of time into eureka that they did with roulettes they'd cap in less time AND be working on their relics.

It is not that big of a time sink if I've managed to get a full set of gear and four weapons in the first five days of release. That would have taken me MUCH longer with most other steps of the past relics.

[Rufalus]

I think an mmo by its nature needs to have some massive timesink activities which are not approachable by everyone, because there are people on the other end of the spectrum who have too much time and need something to keep them going from patch to patch. But, expect some massive nerfs when it's older to make exp farming way faster, more soloable, etc to help people who have less time.

[Yasmina]

How strange because every day I still see people in less than lvl10 or 5 doing groups or following the fate train and no one excludes them, on the contrary, they carry them in double mounts lol

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

How strange because every day I still see people in less than lvl10 or 5 doing groups or following the fate train and no one excludes them, on the contrary, they carry them in double mounts lol

I do this a lot when I'm in groups with low level peeps. its fun!

[AppleJinx]

Yeah this is the nature of mmo content. You might be able to come back and finish it solo a few patches down the road after multiple nerfs though so all hope is not gone yet