Holy in the feast

[Alisi]

I was in a feast match and the other WHM was using Holy on me. How is that possible? I can't see it on my list of spells. Am I blind? =/

[Wintersandman]

What made you think it was Holy?

[Alisi]

What made you think it was Holy?

Have you seen holy cast? He stuck by my side, for most of the fight, casting holy on me. He stunned me like 5 or 10 times. Do WHMs have a stun outside of holy in PVP?

[Risvertasashi]

...It might be something like the Ungarmax bug, but some elements here don't add up. New pvp stun or old pve stun, you can't be stunned that many times.

Next time... try to grab a video (if you have an nvidia card there's a built in recorder) so we can take a look. If they really did find a way to use holy in pvp, they can be reported (not on the basis of the video, but it will be in the battle logs so GMs can review it...)

[Alisi]

...It might be something like the Ungarmax bug, but some elements here don't add up. New pvp stun or old pve stun, you can't be stunned that many times.

Next time... try to grab a video (if you have an nvidia card there's a built in recorder) so we can take a look. If they really did find a way to use holy in pvp, they can be reported (not on the basis of the video, but it will be in the battle logs so GMs can review it...)

Honestly, I didn't actually count how many times he stunned me. I was more marveling that he was using it to count (and, well, calling myself stupid for not using it myself.) At then it ended. It had the flash, that holy sound effect, and I was stunned. I dunno whatever to call it. Is there another spell a whm can use that looks just like a holy? I'll try to catch it on video/combat log next time I see it happening.

[Mofafafa]

did you reported to the GM yet? its an exploit similar to ungarmax

The GM definitely can check the logs and the exploiter will get punished for it

[Risvertasashi]

Honestly, I didn't actually count how many times he stunned me. I was more marveling that he was using it to count (and, well, calling myself stupid for not using it myself.) At then it ended. It had the flash, that holy sound effect, and I was stunned. I dunno whatever to call it. Is there another spell a whm can use that looks just like a holy? I'll try to catch it on video/combat log next time I see it happening.

In pvp, the closest thing WHM has to stun is fluid aura... which of course isn't an actual stun (instead it's knockback + bind), and looks and sounds completely different.

If you remember the exact day and time it happened, you can do as Mofafafa suggests and just report it. GMs can check it out and see.

edit: So I tested in the dueling area and Holy doesn't work there even with macro commands. So I think it's unlikely to be another Ungarmax-style exploit. In any case... do try to get it on video next time and we'll see if we can see what's really going on.

[Ryannex]

As the others have said, if you remember the players name or even the time of match, any information at all would help the GM's try to locate the logs for that particular instance. Holy isn't available, and the only "aoe" they have is the healing spell, Tetragammation - which can't stun. Definitely seems like an exploit, so thank you for bringing it up on the forums - hopefully it will get catched.

[Enlial]

edit: So I tested in the dueling area and Holy doesn't work there even with macro commands.

Are you sure ugarmax was usable at wolves den pier? When I heard about the ungarmax exploit I was curious if it was a pvp issue as well, so I went to wolves den pier and tried it. It didnt seem to work. Maybe I was doing something wrong? Never attempted it outside of that.

Alisi, if you're on PC there should be a log file under mydocument/mygames/ffxiv/(character ID)/logs/ . You have to figure out your character ID. Easiest way Ive found is by going through each folder and looking at the "last modified" date.

I'd be kind of surprised if something like this were possible. You'd think we'd have heard about it before now if it were the case, but stranger things have happened lol

[Risvertasashi]

Are you sure ugarmax was usable at wolves den pier?

Nope, I'm not. But I think the notion behind this is that it might have been similar in style... ability lockout not properly working, thus allowing use of unintended abilities in pvp. But this doesn't seem to be the case.

It could have also been something like the tank stunning the OP while a bunch of very bright visual effects were going off, giving the mistaken impression of holy or something. Or it might have been some sort of third party program exploit. etc. With nothing else to go on, we can't know.