Add Blue Mages Already

[Seraphor]

"Blue mages have used other weapons, but no other jobs have used dual swords."


"A job that wields dual swords, casts elemental magic, and debuffing spells, NOT being a blue mage... would be very, very odd, and a completely missed opportunity considering people want a blue mage."

[Tanathya]

"Blue mages have used other weapons, but no other jobs have used dual swords."


"A job that wields dual swords, casts elemental magic, and debuffing spells, NOT being a blue mage... would be very, very odd, and a completely missed opportunity considering people want a blue mage."

You do want a dual wielding BLU, that's fine and I do too, but that doesn't make a BLU like you've explicitly pointed out, it just doesn't.

[Seraphor]

It’s like Geomancer. That’s never going to happen, because lore has already established that Geomancers are just Conjurers with a different name.
Or Time Mage, which will never happen because it’s been repurposed in Astrologian.

If they introduce a dual-sword class that uses elemental and debuffing spells that’s not a Blue Mage, then that means we will never get a Blue Mage, because the concept will have already been used with a different name.

[Tanathya]

It’s like Geomancer. That’s never going to happen, because lore has already established that Geomancers are just Conjurers with a different name.
Or Time Mage, which will never happen because it’s been repurposed in Astrologian.

If they introduce a dual-sword class that uses elemental and debuffing spells that’s not a Blue Mage, then that means we will never get a Blue Mage, because the concept will have already been used with a different name.

You're missing the point completely. Blue mage can happen with whatever weapon they can imagine, deal with the fact that blue mage isn't tied to a single weapon of choice. Again, dual wielding blue mages happened only once, in FFXI, and it was just a choice, as their weapon of choice were one-handed swords AND clubs, and you needed a specific selection of magics set to be able to gain the "dual wield" trait. You could also dual wield weapons (again, not only swords) in FFV if you picked up the ninja skill "dual wield". I'm sorry to break it to you, but again, blue mage's only solid characteristic is the fact that they learn enemy skills. Like I said, I'd like them to dual wield swords if only because I think FFXI's blue mage is the best iteration of the job, but in no way does that make it a blue mage.

Also, Geomancers appear as a specific job in FFXIV, so there's still a very solid ground set for them to appear as playable some time. Whether they add it or not is another bag of flour.

[Seraphor]

Dual wielding swords alone is not a blue mage trait, but combined with that sort of spell set, it's too similar to not be a blue mage.
Just like how Astrologian is too similar to time mage.

And I'd certainly welcome a blue mage that uses other weapons, (in fact my own proposed blue mage interpretation uses a gunblade) but if this class were made, then we would not get a blue mage period, dual wielding or otherwise, because there would already be a class too similar to it.
Too similar to include a separate blue mage class, not similar enough to appease blue mage fans.

I'm not against the idea of this sort of class, at all. But because of it's similarity to blue mage, it would be pointless to deny that similarity.
That should be embraced instead, make it a full on Mystic Knight/Blue Mage combo, like Astrologian has embraced time mage.

[Tanathya]

Dual wielding swords alone is not a blue mage trait, but combined with that sort of spell set, it's too similar to not be a blue mage.
Just like how Astrologian is too similar to time mage.

And I'd certainly welcome a blue mage that uses other weapons, (in fact my own proposed blue mage interpretation uses a gunblade) but if this class were made, then we would not get a blue mage period, dual wielding or otherwise, because there would already be a class too similar to it.
Too similar to include a separate blue mage class, not similar enough to appease blue mage fans.

I'm not against the idea of this sort of class, at all. But because of it's similarity to blue mage, it would be pointless to deny that similarity.
That should be embraced instead, make it a full on Mystic Knight/Blue Mage combo, like Astrologian has embraced time mage.

Not necessarily, they could very well make it a gun mage, much like they did in FFX-2. Or something new, since BLU is, again, the most flexible job of the whole series by default. That's the whole point.

[Derio]

I honestly want to know what jobs they will release in the next expansion. But most importantly what roles. They said they arent doing 3 job releases ever again so we will get 2. But at the same time they said adding in new tank and healer didnt increase their numbers as expected so we really dont know what they will add.

I do know if they add in 2 more dps, the tank and healer communities are going to be furious, myself included.

Blue mage is often seen using a mace( blunt weapon type).

Not sure on making it a tank.

The one thing I am uncertain on is how blue mage will be implemented as blue mages learn abilites from enemies which makes you wonder what abilities will they choose

[Jandor]

But at the same time they said adding in new tank and healer didnt increase their numbers as expected so we really dont know what they will add.

I do know if they add in 2 more dps, the tank and healer communities are going to be furious, myself included.

That tank/healer line really annoys me. What did they even mean by it?

So, because DRK/AST didn't increase role numbers people playing those roles just shouldn't expect new jobs?

If proportion of tank/healers didn't change then surely neither did DPS, seems that it follows on that there is 'no point adding DPS jobs' as well?

[Rongway]

But at the same time they said adding in new tank and healer didnt increase their numbers as expected so we really dont know what they will add.

We can speculate all we want as to the reasons why AST and DRK didn't have the draw that they expected, and we'll never really know for sure. But I maintain that an important part of it is that AST and DRK were too much like what we already had. Surely there are people out there who would like to heal but who don't like the glittermage archetype, who would like to wear something fiercer than dress robes and pope hats; or people who would like to tank but would like to rely on evasion, illusion, or mysticism rather than living inside a metal barrel and swinging a big sword.

This is why even if we ignored or modified the lore, we still can't have, for example, GEO (CNJ with a bell); necromancer (more dress robes, just darker); or an armored SAM variant (another armored job with a big sword).

We need something totally different from what we already have, and what we don't have yet is a a DoM tank and a DoW healer.

[kidalutz]

I wanna see Blue Mage But I also want to see Dancer and maybe a chemist.