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    drgonzo's Avatar
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    The Duke
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    It will be highly unlikely we get blue mage in 5.0 and near impossible it would ever be a tank. If it were you all would be very unhappy the way it's implemented. I'm sure most will disagree but we will find out soon enough what's coming in the next xpac .... I'll give you a hint gunblade/hammer tank
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    TaiyoShikasu's Avatar
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    Taiyo Shikasu
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by drgonzo View Post
    It will be highly unlikely we get blue mage in 5.0 and near impossible it would ever be a tank. If it were you all would be very unhappy the way it's implemented. I'm sure most will disagree but we will find out soon enough what's coming in the next xpac .... I'll give you a hint gunblade/hammer tank
    There's evidence to suggest BLU is happening, so.
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    Carlo Vinne
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaiyoShikasu View Post
    There's evidence to suggest BLU is happening, so.
    Is it anything beyond wishful thinking and cherry-picking?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekimmak View Post
    Is it anything beyond wishful thinking and cherry-picking?
    Wishful thinking maybe hence why I said suggest, but datamining shows blue mage being listed among other things in an internal storage file. Pretty much the same way samurai was found out about before the job was shown in-game via all new NPC.
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    Wiccan026's Avatar
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    Cerryl Lorinth
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    Lamia
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by TaiyoShikasu View Post
    Wishful thinking maybe hence why I said suggest, but datamining shows blue mage being listed among other things in an internal storage file. Pretty much the same way samurai was found out about before the job was shown in-game via all new NPC.
    I'd rather someone have datamined dancer versus blue mage.
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    Claire Pendragon
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TaiyoShikasu View Post
    other things
    what else?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tanathya View Post
    No one can say blue mage is going to be "most likely" this or that, given the nature of the job. The reason is right there within both of your posts.
    Well, its a bit of old news, but one thing I remember devs behind FF11 said back during the 1st patch after BLU was released.
    They said the westerners turned BLU more into a melee mage DPS, who focused more on melee/physical magic, where they originally envisioned it being more caster, less melee.
    The japanese player base was more interested in making it go /WHM and main healing, to fill in the harder to find healer role for parties. So they nerfed physical spell damage, and raised magical damage, and improved their healing potential.
    (I was one of the people disappointed, but it wasn't the end of the world. Over the years, BLU was given more than enough options to be able to be every role nearly as good as another job.)

    But over all, the japanese mostly saw BLU as the "Caster" type, and not the "Melee mage" type we tend to see ti and RDM as. (Not just in FF11s lore, but in FF lore over all.)

    So while theres more "We want BLU Tank!" demand in the west, there's more "We want caster strago styled BLU!" in japan. (Sort of, again things might have changed over the years, and idk what the japanese are currently asking for.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Biridan View Post
    Imagine having blue mage in any raid type content compared to other tanks. What would that blue mage have to be to actually tank? I feel it would need to specialize so heavily on one aspect of being a blue mage that it would lose out on actually being a blue mage.
    It would have ranged spells, and melee spells, cone and circular AoEs (So far sounds like a tank)
    It would have a tiny bit of healing, but not too much. (Sounds like BLU)
    It would have some debuffs/buffs (sounds like all jobs in the game)
    I dont quite get this comment. Maybe im misunderstanding what you're saying?

    Quote Originally Posted by Biridan View Post
    I think the best option is a dps blue mage with an extensive utility kit. He isn't a tank but he has an ability that lets him tank for 20 seconds. He's not a healer but he has some potent heals he can throw out in a pinch. Trying to focus something as versatile as a blue mage into one small part of what it should be wouldnt do the class justice.
    Currently we have jobs who can be 2 different things;
    DPS
    Tank
    Healer
    Support


    All tanks can switch between pure DPS or pure mitigation. PLD having emergency heals, and WAR having offensive support with slashing debuff. (In case of no NIN or SAM, which my raid group encountered, so our DRK went WAR)

    All healers can pump out heals and DPS, with AST/SCH offering offensive support.

    RDM currently has ranged, melee, AoE, emergency heals, and its main role of DPS.
    and SMN used to tank Ramuh EX, and ive tanked most leveling dungeons as SMN. (I even main healed lower dungeons as ACN, because i didnt want to be a DPS lol)

    It wouldnt be breaking new grounds to make a job that can cover multiple fields. So your version doesnt sound any different from what we currently have, along with being any different from what can be done as a tank or healer (not just DPS)
    (I also remember the japanese players being the ones who used DRGs to tank one of the adds in Garuda EX, and having my group try the same.)
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    Last edited by Claire_Pendragon; 08-06-2018 at 02:04 AM.
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    Zyneste Azurox
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    Gilgamesh
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    White Mage Lv 80
    I really liked the concept of a DoT combo system. Something like having 12-18 second dots that boost the power of the next dot, namely: Aquabreath, lightning Breath, mustard Breath/bomb.

    Using aquabreath then clipping it at 1 second remaining, boosts lightning breaths potency, clipping that with mustard increases it's potency and clipping mustard with aquabreath increases it's potency. The cycle continues. This with manual combos and OGCD would be an alright start to a class.
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    Lumen Stargazer
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    Diabolos
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    why does everyone wants Blue Mage to be a tank? we already have PLD and DRK as tanks with magic stuff, now BLM as well? :O

    ...wait a moment... we already have BLM... how would we call Blue Mage then?


    I mean the original iconic blue Mage armor is superhero armor if that doesn’t scream tank idk what does...

    #BLUtankfor2019
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    Last edited by Brightshadow; 08-02-2018 at 03:50 AM.

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    We already got a leak for Dancer
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    Spoiler!:
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    Hildibrand in 3.3 is in drag, a dancer, and uses a handfan! Dancer confirmed lol.
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    Last edited by Brightshadow; 08-03-2018 at 01:24 AM.

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    Vespereaux Vaillantes
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    Exodus
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    Paladin Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by Brightshadow View Post
    We already got a leak for Dancer
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    Hildibrand in 3.3 is in drag, a dancer, and uses a handfan! Dancer confirmed lol.
    You have not gone nearly far enough down the rabbit hole.

    Spoilers ... well not really


    They finally added bunny suits for male characters ...
    Bunnys hop ...
    A hop is an old slang term for a dance as in "we are going to the hop/dance" ...
    They are obviously hinting that dancer is coming ...
    Dancer confirmed!

    but wait there's more ...

    A dancer must be light on their feet ...
    light on their feet --> lightfoot ...
    Gordon Lightfoot --> Gordon Freeman ...
    Half-Life 3 crossover event confirmed!

    I'd could also do six degrees to Kevin Bacon but that would be far too easy because of Footloose.
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    Last edited by TouchandFeel; 08-03-2018 at 05:19 AM.

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