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  1. #11
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    Shouko's Avatar
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    Aliiza Duskryn
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    Jenova
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    Weaver Lv 52
    Eureka solo 1-20, at 20 go solo lvl 25 mobs without the elemental wheel on defense..there's something challenging for you and it's also pretty hardcore. No getting help, no healing jobs, tank jobs, pure dps with pots for healing, absolutely no getting raised if you die.

    This game has never been "hard", from what I hear EQ was hard, a lot of old Korea/Chinese MMOs are pretty hard from what I hear as well.
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  2. #12
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    Dr Yeol
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    Fisher Lv 100
    I don't think OP want the game to be too hard but they don't want it to be brain dead easy either.

    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    you won't get people to play in the first place if the game is too hard or set at a difficulty higher than most players.
    Most players are under preforming and I don't think that has anything to do with how easy or difficult the content of the game is. People simply do not understand how to play their jobs. This game has a somewhat complicated battle system compared to other games. Though the dev team tried to simplify the rotations, seems it is not working.

    If you stand still and do mechanics, you'll realize that mechanics are not hard. But when you try to keep track of your rotation and other things around you it becomes a challenge. You make mistakes, you under preform and you die.
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    Last edited by Yeol; 03-22-2018 at 04:51 PM.

  3. #13
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    Vahlnir's Avatar
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    Elan Centauri
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    Diabolos
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Yeol View Post
    I don't think OP want the game to be too hard but they don't want it to be brain dead easy either.


    Most players are under preforming and I don't think that has anything to do with how easy or difficult the content of the game is. People simply do not understand how to play their jobs. This game has a somewhat complicated battle system compared to other games. Though the dev team tried to simplify the rotations, seems it is not working.
    The only tutorial is the Hall of the Novice...which doesn't do much. I think people should get a real tutorial to teach them the basics, or maybe one of those pop up tooltips. Some wouldn't read it anyway, but that's just how it goes.
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    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

  4. #14
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    BillyKaplan's Avatar
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    Lho Polaali
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeol View Post
    I don't think OP want the game to be too hard but they don't want it to be brain dead easy either.
    OP wants their ponies to still be status symbols.

    Quote Originally Posted by Keicho View Post
    horses was rly rare and cool, and i dont like people can get it easy now.
    This isn't the first thread they made on the matter, but that's what it always boils down to. They kind of admitted as much themselves in this very thread.

    If you want the game to be harder, there are ways to do so yourself. I helped a four player team get into Titan-ex yesterday, and half of us just left to not mess up gaols and ground aoes. Synced, no echo, 4 people, Titan ex. Here's your challenge.
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    Last edited by BillyKaplan; 03-22-2018 at 05:35 PM.

  5. #15
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    RokkuEkkusu's Avatar
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    Mikeru Takeuchi
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeol View Post
    I don't think OP want the game to be too hard but they don't want it to be brain dead easy either.


    Most players are under preforming and I don't think that has anything to do with how easy or difficult the content of the game is. People simply do not understand how to play their jobs. This game has a somewhat complicated battle system compared to other games. Though the dev team tried to simplify the rotations, seems it is not working.

    If you stand still and do mechanics, you'll realize that mechanics are not hard. But when you try to keep track of your rotation and other things around you it becomes a challenge. You make mistakes, you under preform and you die.
    People tend to underperform because they don't care. At the end of the day, all they care about is clearing the content. They'll do harder content when they're ready. Casuals do tend to pay the bills and all.
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  6. #16
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    Yeol's Avatar
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    Dr Yeol
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    Quote Originally Posted by RokkuEkkusu View Post
    People tend to underperform because they don't care. At the end of the day, all they care about is clearing the content. They'll do harder content when they're ready. Casuals do tend to pay the bills and all.
    More like, the content is so easy that they can clear it while watching Netflix, so why bother.
    These people will hardly ever be ready when hard content is out. Casual content is a good place to practice your rotation while doing easy mechanics (Just my opinion).
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    Last edited by Yeol; 03-22-2018 at 05:42 PM.

  7. #17
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    Lele Inoch
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    Zodiark
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    OP: You missed this game cator towards the casual and not the long playing players and hardcore/midcore players?
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  8. #18
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    Umitu Umbra
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    Tonberry
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    Ninja Lv 100
    People mentioning old un nerfed content, it got nerfed for a reason it not only was not getting done by most of players but a good portion of community up & quit.. fact is MMO survive by the Casual crowd, gone are days of needing a strategy guide for the strategy guide just to play MMOs they can't survive catering to the small hardcore audience that wants content so difficult one miss step in one players rotations causes a wipe. As for mechanic they don't add but rather build upon old/current AOEs/Lines/Debuffs etc because have balance it between classes, we have multiple classes that suffer from moving around & multiple that don't you can't introduce mechanics that are too easy nor too harsh towards both so you get a casual middle ground where players with decent skill will think it's babys first MMO & those under perform will probably think tough it's still not easy balance the design when so many classes function so differently on movement side.
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    A system error occurred during event movement.

  9. #19
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 100
    The only content that I never want made easier is Ultimate. That content is designed to be ultra hard, and it undermines the achievement in a massive way to make content designed not to be accessible more accessible.
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  10. #20
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    Sikah'to Tahqa
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    I think you all kinda miss a point, though... I mean... Get some i100 stuff, get a static that killed the Sigmastice and give them i100 stuff, and then, go in T6-9 Savage while synced and with your i100 stuff.

    You'll kill it. Except for T8 that is a pain and needs you to know HOW to kill it (and that was a wondrous fight, to be fair), none of it was really that hard. We were just bad. Why ? Because we had no experience whatsoever, and had no model as to "how to play properly", or "how to apprehend new things". T6S is a joke, its strat is easier than O5S. T7S is harder to apprehend, but it's not that bad, kinda like O7S. T8S is an anomaly that isn't that hard, but is a pain for Raid Leaders. T9S is basically hard in the same way A4S was hard : it's just overpowered monsters, the strat isn't that bad. I mean, be honest.

    T9S is way easier than bahamut ultimate is. Still, it took the same time to be killed. Because SE "caters to casuals" ? Nope. Because we became better players. Please stop being nostalgic, and see things for how they are...

    As to mounts and other things you needed to farm... We're all very proud of your mounts. I was pretty proud myself when I was one of the first people to have a Lion mount on Cerberus, farming T4 for days just to have it... But now, you don't see me complain whenever I see a Lion. Same for my Fenrir, or any of my mounts... Having a mount, or a glamour, isn't a privilege. Having it early is. I don't know, maybe you should be happy for people having it, instead of being all "I SPENT TIME TO DO IT, THEREFORE I DESERVE IT MORE". Nobody asked you to farm, nobody asked you to spend hours a day doing it. You decided you wanted it, and spent hours on it, and that's cool. But now, grow up...
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    Last edited by ArcaviusGreyashe; 03-22-2018 at 06:39 PM.

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