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    Regarding the new Class System improvements.

    I just wanted to state, that while I am behind the change to bring either advanced classes or specializations of existing classes to the game, there is one aspect in particular I hope SE won't change.

    That being the fact that there is no skill tree. Meaning a system where to gain access to a particular skill you need to unlock existing skills first via spec points and such.

    While I understand that this is done to improve developer control over the game balance, I do not think it is such a big issue that the kind of player freedom the current way skills are gained and used should be sacrificed because of it.

    By the current system, I mean the fact that abilities are gained as you level up, and to gain access to one ability you are not forced to use other abilities at the same time if you don't want to. You only need to have the correct rank and the required action points to set the ability.

    Basically, if I have access to a high level skill I should be able to use it without prerequisites. It's not this black and white in practice since classes would share different specializations (to counter that they can just increase the action point cost of high level abilities of another spec) but in concept I would like this kind of freedom to stay, instead of switching to skill trees "because other games do it we should do it too".

    Lastly I want to clarify that this thread is not about specs or advanced classes in general, but a specific part of such system [skill tree].
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    Everyone is entitled to their own opinions but , imo;

    Anything is better than what we currently have .
    Skill tree or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zkieve View Post
    Everyone is entitled to their own opinions but , imo;

    Anything is better than what we currently have .
    Skill tree or not.
    Breaking the features into pieces and analyzing them one by one-

    No, not every feature or part of a feature in this game is worse than in other games. This one being one of them.

    As I said, I'm not talking about the class system as a whole (as that needs to be made better), just a specific part of it that doesn't need to be changed.
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    I personally hope they make no changes to the Armoury system itself and instead just add the Job System ontop of it so you can pick your Weapon Class and your Job class.
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    I have to thank Square-Enix for the amazing job they have done recreating Final Fantasy XIV from Scratch. Especially the inclusion of Missing Genders which we petitioned for in good faith. This was proof to us players that the Developers are truly Sympathetic to our requests and that being honest and vocal can pay off with the amazing characters we have who are Female Roegadyn, Male Miqote, and Female Highlanders. Thank You SE, Thank You Community Team, Thank You Yoshi-P.

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    This game was supose to be around the Armory system... i just was never a fan of the "weapon makes the class"...
    I like being a warrior type class and being able to use any weapon...
    But that means eraseing and starting over, so probably not likely.

    I supose they can at least tweak it into something better, but they already need to change what weapons make what classes. (ex. Glad has sword and dagger)
    I wonder if they tryed to keep the classes vague at first. Its hard to make new classes then. We gonna run out of weapons way too fast haha.
    Unless SMN, dont use a weapon, but something like a Summoning Stone. Staff and Scepter are already spoken for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LuciBlack View Post
    This game was supose to be around the Armory system... i just was never a fan of the "weapon makes the class"...
    I like being a warrior type class and being able to use any weapon...
    But that means eraseing and starting over, so probably not likely.

    I supose they can at least tweak it into something better, but they already need to change what weapons make what classes. (ex. Glad has sword and dagger)
    I wonder if they tryed to keep the classes vague at first. Its hard to make new classes then. We gonna run out of weapons way too fast haha.
    Unless SMN, dont use a weapon, but something like a Summoning Stone. Staff and Scepter are already spoken for.
    You are derailing this thread. There are other threads for this sort of feedback.
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