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    That's what the "ERASE" is for. New SSDs refresh the data on themselves periodically to avoid this error. A flash drive usually doesn't have this feature. Flash drives are supposed to be used as data storage for rarely accessed data and not stuff like operating systems or games.
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    Wait, you're mixing 2 things together there. Read disturb != data retention, ERASE is to get rid off the voltage cause by read disturb, but it erases the cell = data loss. The ECC is what is used to recover from a read disturb, and that's what most flash drives won't have.

    So:
    • you are right that installing FFXIV on a flash memory will wear the data out, with files becoming corrupted over time, requiring you to rewrite them (wearing out one more cycle of the memory)
    • my argument of playing FFXIV from the flash drive is valid, the chip won't be worn out from read access. The wear starts only if you start re(writing) data on it.
    • according to the slides, you have 100k reads on each file (10k for MLC) before read disturbance starts showing up
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    The ERASE is the 2nd step done to reduce the risk of a read disturb. 1st you read the data into a memory, 2nd you delete the old data, 3rd you write the data back. That's why I said "refresh". At least read the full posts and not just the first sentence -_-
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    Why don't you read my post completely? Nothing of what you said in your last post makes the 3 points invalid - and yes, I've read it completely.

    Where in that post should I've read that ERASE is a part of refresh? You claim ERASE is there to reduce read disturb, which isn't the case, ERASE on it's own is doing only what it should - erasing data. Without explaining what you mean you then proceed to talking about refreshing data.

    Instead of acting all annoyed about my replies, you should work on thinking your posts through before clicking on submit, and practice posting in a neutral tone. Thank you.
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    It seems you're just trying to troll and not to discuss or understand. Means discussion is over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coldfire View Post
    It seems you're just trying to troll and not to discuss or understand.
    Really? I guess the discussion is over, see you (not).
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