Issues with MCH since Stormblood Rework & Ideas on how to fix them

[Grimoire-M]

I get that feeling on BRD too, but it's mostly because I'm not in a group that supports them (ie. no DRG/NIN). MCH feels the same losses as well, but they're at least reliable, despite the clipping and clunk. BRD flows better but the variance you get is just plain awful if you can't combat it via crit raid buffs. Neither class feels well balanced to me, but in BRD's case its not their fault. It's the meta comp that makes them feel good, and by contrast they look weak in other comps. MCH performs as well as you can handle it, and their design fights you the whole way. They appreciate the hell out of NIN and piercing, but deal enough damage to function without either.

[kobe-sabi]

i wish we can have five "Ammo" back, three isn't cutting it, also lengthen "Wild Fire" to 12 seconds and do something to "Flamethrower" it's a lvl 70 skill and i feel its lacking in the department as a lvl cap skill.

[Darkpaw]

Well given the fact that it doesn't seem likely that 4.4 will be our fix patch I suppose I'll post here to bump this thread in hopes that the dev team takes notice of the machinist concerns and seriously takes a look at some adjustments for it.

[Darkpaw]

see you all in 5.0 if we're lucky and get a fix.. -hangs up the gun and aetherotransformer.-

[Caitlyn]

see you all in 5.0 if we're lucky and get a fix.. -hangs up the gun and aetherotransformer.-

I have to remind you, what happened with MCH with any add-on so far...

Heavensward Release: MCH was weak/useless af (got better or even OP at the end of Heavensward)
Stormblood Release: MCH is/was clusterf**k (it wont change until 5.0 in my opinion)

Shadowbringers Release: Bring it on!



While SAM, BLM and RDM got buffed and therefore even more popular, MCH will still be the most unpopular class ever. No matter how many times SE f***ed up MCH, it will be my main class forever >: )

[kupokage]

Having just recently jumped back into MCH from BRD, it all came rushing back to me how many stoppages there are during a Machinist's regular rotation.

Animation locks during Reload, redeploying the turret, Stabilizer, reequipping the Gauss Barrel etc. Very annoying trying play around that. (It seems though i can shorten the Reload animation if used during Slug Shot's animation)

The BRDs seem to be able to cancel a lot if not all of their attack animations. Much much more fluid gameplay.

Trying to stay positive and hope to get a massive rework in 5.0.

[Kitfox]

Historically expansion releases have not been kind for MCH. Maybe 3rd time's the charm? I guess we can hope, but considering the attention we're getting right now, I'm very much in the pessimistic crowd.

[Matthew_Fox]

> Present Well structured and written document on how to improve a job
Get ignored
> REEEE about some tooltip cause some monkey doesn't know how battle voice works
Don't worry BARD community we'll fix it!