Eureka Vote

[Tanathya]

We'll see in the future if SQEX, and Yoshi-P particularly, steps up again to try and acknowledge in some way (be it trying to sell us another piece of content as "it's not gonna be like Eureka, promise" or as "Eureka revisited a la Diadem 2.0!") that Eureka wasn't "what they expected". My money's on that, as they've proven time and again that it's their MO. Like I said, we'll see, but we're seeing the exact same reaction on both parts that we saw in both Diadem 1.0 and then Diadem 2.0. Not even this is new in any way.

[Nestama]

I've not been trying to silence people, but to point out that no matter what, people like Eureka. Also, to say that I haven't criticised SE on anything about FFXIV is a flat out lie.

• ARR 2.2-2.5 dungeons are the worst dungeons in the game (they still are). They're all boring, most dungeon bosses are FATE boss level (think bird FATE in Coerthas Central Highlands. Eureka FATE's are comparable to Chimera and Hydra Trials) and the gear you got would never be used as catch-up gear. Thankfully, HW and SB dungeons are improvements.
• Atma, Animus, Novus, Anima, Light farming... I hated all of these.
• Diadem v1 is trash. Was kind of okay with Diadem v2, though I wish I could have done the Emergency Mission.
• Syrcus Tower and most World of Darkness bosses are trash (Angra Mainyu is awesome, though).
• Male glamour.
• 2.0 latency. Titan HM was stupid back then and I had to learn how to pre-dodge (and then de-learn when I got a PS4 and after 2.1 was released because I was dodging too soon and getting others hit by AoE's in Titan EX)
• 3.1 overall (except Thordan EX).
• Latency in Savage. I shouldn't be getting hit by the Saintly Beam I've been out of for three second. Also the Abandonment mechanic needs to be a little lenient because of latency.

Eureka isn't perfect and it does need a few things to make it better, but as a whole, it's not a failure. Some like it, some hate it. That said, the people who hate it (not all, but I have seen some) shouldn't make it seem like Eureka shouldn't exist. It's optional content you can choose to ignore and if you're not having fun with FFXIV right now, it's perfectly okay to take a break and return for the next patch cycle (I have a feeling a dev or Yoshi-P himself may have recommended this). It's what I've done every so often when I just wasn't having fun any more and if I hated Eureka (and didn't have a static), probably would have cancelled my sub until 4.3.

It also helps that I no longer get hyped for anything in this game. 3.1 disappointed me (and that was actually delayed) as I was rather hyped for Diadem v1. I had no expectations from Eureka (aside from expecting a grind of sorts, because Relic) and I got exactly what I 'expected' and a little more (although the NM train will steam roll the low level NM's now, the high level NM's constantly kill people who don't know the mechanics... or in the Monoeye NM's case, get latency-killed). One thing I do hope for, is force pop NM's with key items. If SE can do this in the future (and fix the level sync and visibility problems in Eureka), then I'll be happier.

[Derio]

Most people are fine with it.

I am fine with it, but that doesnt mean I am against improving it.

IMO its not bad, but at the same time its not good either.

[Arcari]

We\\'ll see in the future if SQEX, and Yoshi-P particularly, steps up again to try and acknowledge in some way (be it trying to sell us another piece of content as "it's not gonna be like Eureka, promise" or as "Eureka revisited a la Diadem 2.0!") that Eureka wasn't "what they expected". My money's on that, as they've proven time and again that it's their MO. Like I said, we'll see, but we're seeing the exact same reaction on both parts that we saw in both Diadem 1.0 and then Diadem 2.0. Not even this is new in any way.

Hmmmm. My memory is probably very off (I wouldn't be surprised, I'm old!), but I don't remember Diadem ever having this amount of defenders. V1 was near universally reviled, and V2, only slightly less so, and only because it was amazing for the gatherers.

This time around, I feel one could mount a reasonable defense of Eureka and be ok...there are some things it does get right, or at the very least, better than Diadem. Still, no one in their right mind would try to claim perfection. I've yet to see or hear anyone on here, Reddit, or in-game claim that Eureka is golden the way it currently is.

[Tanathya]

Hmmmm. My memory is probably very off (I wouldn't be surprised, I'm old!), but I don't remember Diadem ever having this amount of defenders. V1 was near universally reviled, and V2, only slightly less so, and only because it was amazing for the gatherers.

This time around, I feel one could mount a reasonable defense of Eureka and be ok...there are some things it does get right, or at the very least, better than Diadem. Still, no one in their right mind would try to claim perfection. I've yet to see or hear anyone on here, Reddit, or in-game claim that Eureka is golden the way it currently is.

I was talking about the reaction on both parts, not the same amount on each one of them. It's all speculation on my end, but it's been a steady response from Square each time something "big" failed.

[ToriiMiyuki]

Poll says a lot about how passive the 'community' is - they'll really just take whatever SQEX spits at them.

[SendohJin]

Poll says a lot about how passive the 'community' is - they'll really just take whatever SQEX spits at them.

if that's true, Diadem wouldn't be what it is now.

[MomomiMomi]

if that's true, Diadem wouldn't be what it is now.

Had they made Diadem focused on a relic weapon, I'm quite sure Diadem would have been accepted. it is, after all, essentially the same thing.

Conversely, if Eureka didn't have relic attached to it, it would probably already be dead.

[Nestama]

Had they made Diadem focused on a relic weapon, I'm quite sure Diadem would have been accepted. it is, after all, essentially the same thing.

It was indirectly involved with the Anima step. Pterodactyl is a material required to craft an item needed for the Anima. You can buy it with Scrips, but you can also Gather it in Diadem.
The Anima step overall was pretty stupid back then.

[Reynhart]

It was indirectly involved with the Anima step. Pterodactyl is a material required to craft an item needed for the Anima. You can buy it with Scrips, but you can also Gather it in Diadem.
The Anima step overall was pretty stupid back then.

I liked that step back then. It was a bit long but it gave me a reason to do something that nothing else did : Create a team of very different players from my FC where a group worked towards a common goal.
DoW/M escorted DoL in Diadem, who then gives materials to DoH, who created specialist items for DoW/M.
We even spend some of our FC funds to make sure our crafters and gatherers have the best gear to facilitate every step...