Eureka... what were you expecting?

[MilanFrozen]

Before I had any actual details from the devs I was getting earfulls from a friend about Eureka possibly having area specific abilities and POTD styled random world but on a larger scale and in an open world. Fortunately I was skeptical and waited till I got to hear from the horse's mouth. After that I knew what Eureka was going to be long before it was released with the exception of how heavily the elemental system would play into it.

I was NOT disappointed by Eureka on release, (only when I heard what it actually was) but that's because I was already pierceiving it to be mediocre at best.

[Kaonis]

Despite the devs pushing that it would be "Different from Diadem" and "Innovative and fresh content" I expected none of that. I expected something similar to Diadem 2.0, where you would be grinding FATE's and exp would be going directly into your relic. Then maybe there would be hunts and probably something similar to the daily/weekly hunt marks and maybe even poppable NM's meant for a party of 4-8. I'll also mention none of that is what I would have wanted either, just what I expected given SE's track record. The fact they were able to fall below my low expectations of them is quite an accomplishment in and of itself.

[Usho]

I was expecting it not to be sh*t. They had over a year to work on this. I didn't wait this long for Diadem 3.0, I wanted content called "Eureka". This is not the Eureka I waited patiently for.

[Okamimaru]

I was expecting it not to be sh*t. So there ya go.

It's probably super helpful comments like this from such positive people like yourself that gives the development team such clear vision as to what the players actually want...

[Alleo]

It's probably super helpful comments like this from such positive people like yourself that gives the development team such clear vision as to what the players actually want...

People posted quite a lot about what they dislike about Diadem 1+2. They also posted more than enough that they are sick of Fates and stuff like that. Hunts has been a pool of toxcity for a long time. So somehow they come and combine all those things into a new and innovate content..Honestly its quite telling that this is often called Diadem 3.0 or even Beta Diadem (since its worse for quite some people). That after all these posts they still created something like this..

[MilanFrozen]

It's probably super helpful comments like this from such positive people like yourself that gives the development team such clear vision as to what the players actually want...

To be fair with how it turned out, it wouldn't be surprising in the slightest if they didn't even read the forums.

[Kallera]

To be fair with how it turned out, it wouldn't be surprising in the slightest if they didn't even read the forums.

Well, not the english forums, remember the devs need to have anything from here translated by community managers, so certain things are bound to be missed...

Though I'm not sure how much more clearer people could have been about what they didn't like without, well, having it translated in JP and posting it on the JP forums. there is a communication problem.

[Tridus]

I was expecting a new continent to explore and things to do on it, maybe with some new story and such. Also a new, elemental themed combat system.

What I got was "grind mobs to spawn mobs to grind", technical problems, and the illusion of an elemental themed combat system that's really just "stack everything into one element and turn the wheel to whatever you're fighting so you can kill it faster".

But fundamentally? Most of the game is something I find fun. I expected fun. I didn't find fun.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

I would be lying to claim I had any real expectations. While I find Eureka fun enough, I'm ultimately disappointed by...

• A lack of secondary objectives
• A tediously slow leveling system (initially)
• The severely beign elemental wheel
• A poor interface (No PF equivalent)

The fact I either have to hope enough low level players want to chain farm mobs otherwise I'm a rez-bot while leeching off high level player's work is probably the biggest complaint I have.

[Babakin]

I had posted a reply for this in another thread, so I'll just try to cut that down a bit for here:

From the information that was given and my limited way to understand it, I thought Eureka was going to be a combination of PotD and Diadem.

Maybe taking the idea of aetheral gear from PoTD but calling it elemental gear that you enhance as you explore through Eureka. And then putting in missions and fates similar to Diadem in to help enhance the elemental gear. Once the elemental gear is maxed out you can trade it for the physical relic gear or upgrade to another tier of elemental gear.

I recall a mission in Diadem where we protect a party member as they transport an egg, that was pretty fun to do and different from just zerging a fate or killing x-amount of enemies. In Trials of the Matron you can finish up missions by gathering which was a nice change of pace.

I even thought the puzzle instance they had during the Valentine's Day event was them testing out doing puzzles in the game for Eureka and that'd play a role.

And the weather influx that was originally talked about sounded like different monsters will appear during certain conditions and maybe working to take advantage of when the weather changes occur. Like leading mobs into tornados that toss them up into the air giving them wind weakness. So far with the elemental board I haven't noticed too much of a buff then again when your mindlessly grinding mobs in a group its hard to notice a real difference.

The current Eureka just seems like a normal map with HP-bloated monsters in it and no other substance. Monsters are just crowded together and doesn't give it a natural feel to the island and is just another reminder that this is a MMO.

Having to re-level my character up just to take part in NM fates just seems tiring to me. If Eureka was just going to be kill mobs and collect crystals, they could've just done that with the Fates in Othard and Doma. There's no need for a whole new map.