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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    There is a way to do it without hurting anyone, by opening zones far before you're overpowered for the monsters within. In older FF, you didn't have to reach the level cap to beat the story, the same could be done here. But, if you're not confident, skilled, organized or whatever, you still have the option to level a little more so that you could beat the monsters easily.

    But for that, I'd say the next set of actions shouldn't be tied to your level, so that you'll be able to learn all of them even without hitting the cap.

    On top of that, it would address what is for me an issue, which is the predictability of the x.0 MSQ. It's always set so that by the time you reach the cap, you're exactly at the end. It this was blurred, it would give more room for unexpected turn of events.
    This is not a single player game. You could do that in older FF because there was more game albeit optimal stuff after the final boss. your example would be running being forced to get past omega weapon in ff 10 in order to fight Braska's final aeon to complete the story its dumb and something you can't do.
    the .0 are setup like that for a reason so your at the cap to do all of the other stuff that comes out in the rest of the patches for the expansion. otherwise you'd have people whining because they need to be lvl 70 to do 4.1 stuff but the msq only took them up to 66.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreatonemal View Post
    so what you would require at least 4 or a few days worth sure if you expect players to only play this game.
    Seriously, if you don't even have time to cap your tomestone each week by simply doing one roulette each day...why do you even play and MMO ?
    Quote Originally Posted by thegreatonemal View Post
    Your example would be running being forced to get past omega weapon in ff 10 in order to fight Braska's final aeon to complete the story its dumb and something you can't do.
    We're talking about overworld. "post-game" content has nothing to do with it. If the Lochs are open at level 60 with lvl 70 monsters, some people will explore it at that level while others will do it at 70. So, challenging overworld unless you powerlevel before it, exactly like past FF. So, basically, stop making reaching the level cap mandatory for the MSQ.
    Quote Originally Posted by thegreatonemal View Post
    otherwise you'd have people whining because they need to be lvl 70 to do 4.1 stuff but the msq only took them up to 66.
    If they're skilled enough, they won't have to be 70. If they're not, then it's easy to do some level up.
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    At this point I hoping they are working on a new FF MMO, I just hope it’s not another theme park wow clone.. Make it feel alive and dangerous. Make like your a truly adventuring and have a community which needs each other...
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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreatonemal View Post
    so what you would require at least 4 or a few days worth sure if you expect players to only play this game. but i play multiple games in my free time not gonna devote it all to this one game unless I want to
    Then you don't progress at nearly the same rate as someone that presents value to the community by actually being present.

    A fair trade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    Then you don't progress at nearly the same rate as someone that presents value to the community by actually being present.

    A fair trade.
    Then please go play games that were made in the 90s and very early 2000's modern games aren't for you then.
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    Yup, and its another reason for people to hate it.... They are a really good sub-BiS weapon for C A S U A L player who barely do any raid. The problem is not the weapon its how Eureka is a terrible way to get them.
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    Last edited by Nariel; 09-23-2018 at 03:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nariel View Post
    They are a really good sub-BiS weapon for C A S U A L player who barely do any raid.
    That's the purpose of Tome weapon. Seriously, since those exist, Relics are not the "casual" weapon. And it's been almost 4 years now, maybe it's time to be up-to date.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    That's the purpose of Tome weapon. Seriously, since those exist, Relics are not the "casual" weapon. And it's been almost 4 years now, maybe it's time to be up-to date.
    Why can't you let people having choice ?

    What if this weapon have stats better suit me ? Like IDK the crit cap and a nice DH bonus who beat the crap out of those dirty skillspeed/deter weapon I have to deal with.

    What if I like to actualy make a beautiful weapon by myslef for the sake of vanity ?

    You're not ready for the s***tstorm the disapperance of relic weapon would cause.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nariel View Post
    Why can't you let people having choice ?
    You have a choice between different weapons. Why doesn't anyone complain that the savage weapon is only available if you do Savage ? Or the Deep Dungeon weapon ? Or the primal weapons ?
    Quote Originally Posted by Nariel View Post
    What if this weapon have stats better suit me ? Like IDK the crit cap and a nice DH bonus who beat the crap out of those dirty skillspeed/deter weapon I have to deal with. What if I like to actualy make a beautiful weapon by myslef for the sake of vanity ?
    If you want the weapon so much that you're ready to do a content you despise, this means that SE's move was just brilliantly smart.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nariel View Post
    You're not ready for the s***tstorm the disapperance of relic weapon would cause.
    The relic lost its value back in HW, by always being so late that it was mostly weaker than Primal weapons.
    Quote Originally Posted by thegreatonemal View Post
    believe diadeam was required for the relic in hw and once it was done the content died so uhh no. Thats not how this works that's not how any of this works. You really need to learn about the game you are playing.
    No, it died once they removed the Diadem requirement...But please, keep proving that you can't even understand how all of this went.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    If you want the weapon so much that you're ready to do a content you despise, this means that SE's move was just brilliantly smart.
    are you even aware that devs don't do bad feature on purpose ?

    I'm pretty sure last years when its been put on the table they though it was a good idea and people will totaly enjoy it.

    For the rest of you answers... I... Just... WTF dude ? Are you even sure you understand the problem people get with Eureka ? What is the point your trying to make anyway ?!
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    Last edited by Nariel; 09-23-2018 at 04:05 AM.

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