Can we please be more angry about the object culling in FFXIV?

[Rollout]

Like, with Eureka, it's a serious problem within Eureka. With the way the game handles things, if there's a full instance of people in Eureka, you're lucky if you can even SEE the Notorious Monsters. It's a big enough problem to be able to damage the monster when you can't see it, but I've had instances where I can see the monster, but not the AoE indicators for some attacks.

Monster should take 100% priority on what is shown on screen at all times. Followed by your party members, then NPCs, then other players.

[Penthea]

This is the only thing about Eureka I can say I completely loathe. I enjoy Eureka but the way the game chooses to phase out players and enemies spoils it so much sometimes.

Under no circumstances should party members be phased out. We lose xp if we res ourselves after level 6...I had a real "oh sh**" moment earlier when all but me in my party had died, I was on very low hp...and I couldn't target anyone to res them because the game decided players not in my group took priority. And they died because I couldn't heal them for the same reason. We all nearly lost xp through no fault of our own.

It's honestly a real d**k move to punish players for dying when this utterly retarded phasing system is in place.

Party members and boss mobs should NEVER phase out. You should always be able to heal and res your team mates. You should always be able to see hostile abilities a boss is casting.

Ideally the only thing that should get phased out is other players not in the same party.

[Joe777]

There is already multiple threads on this matter. We all want this issue to be fixed or at least diverted for the better, but getting angrier about something that has been present in the game since forever and not fixed yet won't change anything, no matter how much we may want it to.

[Penthea]

but getting angrier about something that has been present in the game since forever and not fixed yet won't change anything, no matter how much we may want it to.

It's different now. Eureka is the first feature in the game to take xp away from you if you die. If you die because the game phased out the wrong targets...well you're just getting punished because of a bad ai dice roll and that's honestly s**t.

[MilanFrozen]

There is already multiple threads on this matter. We all want this issue to be fixed or at least diverted for the better, but getting angrier about something that has been present in the game since forever and not fixed yet won't change anything, no matter how much we may want it to.

This only makes it worse since the longer something isn't fixed, the madder you should get.

[Vhailor]

There is already multiple threads on this matter. We all want this issue to be fixed or at least diverted for the better, but getting angrier about something that has been present in the game since forever and not fixed yet won't change anything, no matter how much we may want it to.

Nonsense, of course it will. Increased anger leads to increased visibility for SE, which translates to a heightened priority. If you are in fact right - if getting angrier about an issue does not in fact affect SE's priorities and result in a faster fix - then FFXIV is in deep trouble. This is about the most basic sort of feedback cycle on the planet.

[Joe777]

Nonsense, of course it will. Increased anger leads to increased visibility for SE, which translates to a heightened priority. If you are in fact right - if getting angrier about an issue does not in fact affect SE's priorities and result in a faster fix - then FFXIV is in deep trouble. This is about the most basic sort of feedback cycle on the planet.

Well you can't accurately show such emotion changes in text anyway without resorting to outright flaming, spamming, etc. imo but I'd say it really is enough just to keep giving feedback, regardless of how it is expressed. Emotions can be judged properly so feedback is deemed positive or negative despite anger levels and SE will see how upset we are about the issue and know how we feel through the feedback. Basically all I'm saying is trying to get angrier about it isn't gonna do anything different beyond whatever said anger does to yourself. I mean if you wanna get angrier about it then have fun with that, but I'd be willing to bet if the entire forum got that angry they would just begin mindlessly flaming SE and then the thread would probably not live long because that would be what getting angrier about this at this point would lead to. For example:

Angry about the issue: Damn it I can't see my peeps or my targets fix it SE!

Angrier about the issue: SE FIX YOUR FUCKING SHIT YOU INCOMPETENT FOOLS!!

At least that's my opinion of how it'd go lol and I believe what we have been saying so far is good enough to give proper feedback.

[Joe777]

It's different now. Eureka is the first feature in the game to take xp away from you if you die. If you die because the game phased out the wrong targets...well you're just getting punished because of a bad ai dice roll and that's honestly s**t.

I'm not saying it isn't a serious issue, nor has it never been a serious issue, I'm just saying getting more worked up over it isn't gonna impact if and when SE fixes or band-aid fixes it is all. All the feedback we have given so far should be enough to make them see the problem, provided they didn't already know about it (which I doubt), so all we can do is wait, which does indeed suck but it is all we can do now...

[Zetsumei_Tsunarashi]

Start demanding the drop of 32bit windows then. It has the same memory limitations as a PS3 but yet is still supported.

This is also the same reason why objects in your house/yard disappear.

[JunseiKei]

Start demanding the drop of 32bit windows then. It has the same memory limitations as a PS3 but yet is still supported.

This is also the same reason why objects in your house/yard disappear.

Didn't they say 5.0 would be 64 bit only? Doesn't help with the situation now, but I believe they have already stated their intentions.