Male Spring Bottoms. What the hell?

[ErryK]

Um..above the knee shorts haven't been in fashion for ages. You can watch any movie from the 70s or 80s to see how ridiculous they can look. Maybe a long, narrower below the knee short with rolled up cuffs would look better, but there's no way an exact copy of the girl's shorts would work well on male characters.

The whole point is that it's yet another pair of pants, much less an unattractive pair of pants.

[Yhual]

but there's no way an exact copy of the girl's shorts would work well on male characters.

I didn't realize you were the arbiter of all things male fashion

Either way guys could've gotten something better than these bargain bin jeggings.

[Penthea]

Let's just be rid of gender locked gear. All it does is stunt creativity and potential comedy. Both bring a lot of joy.

[RiyahArp]

The most pressing fashion issue I often see on this board is the lack of a bunny suit for men, so forgive me if I'm not sold on their judgment either.

TBH, it's really hard to design flashy clothes that don't look ridiculous or like a costume on them, so understated is a lot safer. I think also for a japanese person, shorts have a big "little boy" connotation; if you look at films from the same time period, the kid is almost always rocking above the knee shorts. Kind of why the pair Sora in Kingdom hearts wears is ok on him, when the near same thing on Tidus makes him look silly.

I think a game that did really well for men's fashion is the visual novel Bad Apple Wars, and I wouldn't mind SE looking at that game some.

[Eloah]

It kinda irks me when we have unisex gear but the models are different for some reason. And this effects males and females. I've heard plenty of players who play female complain that an item they think will be pants becomes a skirt and stockings for them or odd short shorts, like the SCH AF1/2 gear and Bard AF2/3 gear; and remember the big issue with the DRG AF1 armor people were pissed. Likewise, people didn't like the Ifrit tank armor on guys as the chest window made no sense. I'm tired of seeing a piece of gear I think would look nice on me, just to have it look completely different, for no reason. Why does the female Quan get the leg designs but the males is all white, stupid. Yet something like the original Bard AF gear is okay? SE confuses me.

[Riardon]

It's weird to me that something like this



makes the dev team so uncomfortable to the point where the item shown in the OP is the alternative they'd rather have.

SO much this. They have some really old fashioned Japanese culture constraints or their gear designers have no idea about basic male clothing and gear fashion.

[Alleo]

I never understood that they dont create short pants for males while this game has subligars on mass..I mean those show way more than these shorts ever will..SE please..

[BillyKaplan]

We have subligars, we have banana hammocks... and then there's the AF1 WHM set. Where guys finally get shorts! ...but it's only because someone pressed the Red Button™ so the trade-off is that for ladies a piece of gear that rightly should've been pants or what not is a pair of panties. It's like they can't find a decent middle ground.

[Lukha]

Words of wisdom:

Play female in every game except Monster Hunter World. Fashion Souls thanks you.

But I am a female and want to look at male booty in sexy clothing.

[Eloah]

And let us not forget these healer hotpants.

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...em/5c40f68974d

And look at how Yoshi-P and the "whole" of Japan dresses; this issue really shouldn't be an issue.