Male Spring Bottoms. What the hell?

[RiyahArp]

The most pressing fashion issue I often see on this board is the lack of a bunny suit for men, so forgive me if I'm not sold on their judgment either.

TBH, it's really hard to design flashy clothes that don't look ridiculous or like a costume on them, so understated is a lot safer. I think also for a japanese person, shorts have a big "little boy" connotation; if you look at films from the same time period, the kid is almost always rocking above the knee shorts. Kind of why the pair Sora in Kingdom hearts wears is ok on him, when the near same thing on Tidus makes him look silly.

I think a game that did really well for men's fashion is the visual novel Bad Apple Wars, and I wouldn't mind SE looking at that game some.

[Eloah]

It kinda irks me when we have unisex gear but the models are different for some reason. And this effects males and females. I've heard plenty of players who play female complain that an item they think will be pants becomes a skirt and stockings for them or odd short shorts, like the SCH AF1/2 gear and Bard AF2/3 gear; and remember the big issue with the DRG AF1 armor people were pissed. Likewise, people didn't like the Ifrit tank armor on guys as the chest window made no sense. I'm tired of seeing a piece of gear I think would look nice on me, just to have it look completely different, for no reason. Why does the female Quan get the leg designs but the males is all white, stupid. Yet something like the original Bard AF gear is okay? SE confuses me.

[Alleo]

I never understood that they dont create short pants for males while this game has subligars on mass..I mean those show way more than these shorts ever will..SE please..

[BillyKaplan]

We have subligars, we have banana hammocks... and then there's the AF1 WHM set. Where guys finally get shorts! ...but it's only because someone pressed the Red Button™ so the trade-off is that for ladies a piece of gear that rightly should've been pants or what not is a pair of panties. It's like they can't find a decent middle ground.

[Shouko]

We have subligars, we have banana hammocks... and then there's the AF1 WHM set. Where guys finally get shorts! ...but it's only because someone pressed the Red Button™ so the trade-off is that for ladies a piece of gear that rightly should've been pants or what not is a pair of panties. It's like they can't find a decent middle ground.

I get tired of skirts and dresses all the time, I don't mind for a caster job here n there but if I want a dress I want something more like battle dresses with armor...

[Eloah]

And let us not forget these healer hotpants.

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...em/5c40f68974d

And look at how Yoshi-P and the "whole" of Japan dresses; this issue really shouldn't be an issue.

[ForctyusGold]

yo in spring is somewhere still cold so dev team keep us healthy anyway this desing with that hips are disgusting

[Ariane]

I'm just saying there are people that complain the gear is too feminine and others complain its not feminine enough. They already do sometimes make the gear different looking between genders, and even once had different sets for both for the Garo gear. But then you get some people complaining that their male characters don't get stuff like a butterfly hairpin. But if both genders got the butterfly hairpin? People would be complaining its too feminine for men.

[BillyKaplan]

I'm just saying there are people that complain the gear is too feminine and others complain its not feminine enough. They already do sometimes make the gear different looking between genders, and even once had different sets for both for the Garo gear. But then you get some people complaining that their male characters don't get stuff like a butterfly hairpin. But if both genders got the butterfly hairpin? People would be complaining its too feminine for men.

The problem is a lack of options that hurts everyone involved, if we had more options no one would've picked on any one set that goes heavily in either direction because there would've been something to offset it like there is for females most of the time. Some people want to run their male characters as wearing more femininie clothes - not necessarily the Generic Robes™ casters get (and what if I want that, but for my tank? I'm screwed), especially when you look at the variety of outfits female characters get. And then you have the people who want more masculine outfits, who either get screwed over because the set is unisex so they have to put in a boob-window a-la lore tank set (I personally like that on guys, but I get why people complain), or because their idea of what guys wear is what we got in this case, Generic Pants™ that don't even look that good. Pants can look good, I adore the AF3 BRD pants, but they're the extreme minority. Sometimes I have a hard time telling apart the Best Man's slacks from the Butler's slacks from the Slacks of Eternal Passion. Sure, I have 3 options for pants. But are they really options if I can't really tell them apart?
And yes, people can and will complain either way. But these pants in particular are just plain and uninspired, I can't imagine either side is overly happy with them.