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    Quote Originally Posted by Vhailor View Post
    So, two things.

    (1) The only difference between raising hell and conspiracy theories is the accuracy of the complaint, really. Which again comes around to the problem of SE's lack of communication: we don't have any real idea of the facts surrounding any given response by the development team. Housing is a great example here; you bring up the notion that perhaps both sides were heard. Well, you're right - maybe they were. But nothing SE has done clarifies this for the players. Going off the evidence we have - which is correlative at best - there's at least a 50/50 chance they only paid attention because it became a PR nightmare away from the forums.

    Don't you think it would have been nice for SE to shed some light on this decision? A simple statement - a short apology, thanks given for the feedback of players across venues (3rd-party media, the Official Forums, etc.), and a commitment to react more proactively in the future - would have done an immense amount of good. But no such statement exists, at least to my knowledge. There was simply a Live Letter response about new Wards being added. So the community was left in the dark, completely unable to determine whether or not there was a conspiracy afoot, or whether SE just decided to listen for once.

    (2) Your posts have seemed to lament the negative nature of the community. May I ask why you believe this to be a productive discussion to have? It feels as if you think the community should make an effort to police itself and put on its 'nice' hat in order to coax SE to the table in terms of community outreach. I question whether this is a realistic goal, and whether you believe it's reasonable for a company to maintain a clearly problematic policy just because people are being critical.
    1) raising is hell is fine if done for achieving something and it requires specific demands, saying that the company won't change ever frankly serves nothing really, because MAYBE they'll change in some way but they'll lack focus input from us.

    2) What's wrong with the community policing itself? My concern is that negaitive posts will simply bury feedbacks and demands in obscurity since misery loves company ppl really like to come together to create echo chambers.
    Since the goal of this thread is sound AKA getting the eng community team to be more active about us it should aim for that.
    But if you think that's unreasonable then by all means.
    In fact I see ppl only quoting my second post and not my first where I said what we should ask off them, because apparently I'm not negative enough and I'm ruffling some feathers by saying that it's pointless to brood in idle speculations.

    Which leads me to wonder if ppl wants more informations really. I think that if we really want more communications we should really push for that and not beign derailed by anything else and since the goal of the thread seemed to me sound it pains to me that many feedbacks on the topics are becoming drown in idle speculations and tinfoil hat conspiracies.
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    Last edited by Remedi; 04-09-2018 at 06:57 PM.