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    It's possible to have a discussion of different opinions without it beign derailed into a flame war pls?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remedi View Post
    It's possible to have a discussion of different opinions without it beign derailed into a flame war pls?
    Unfortunately flaming is the only thing people respond to...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remedi View Post
    It's possible to have a discussion of different opinions without it beign derailed into a flame war pls?
    Nope, not entertaining.

    Though, not sarcastically, we cannot have a discussion about different opinions as long as people are not open sharing with others what they really wanted about something. For example: people complaining about Eureka, but not stating what they wanted Eureka to be like (ie: their expectations).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtrasweettea View Post
    Nope, not entertaining.

    Though, not sarcastically, we cannot have a discussion about different opinions as long as people are not open sharing with others what they really wanted about something. For example: people complaining about Eureka, but not stating what they wanted Eureka to be like (ie: their expectations).
    But it does not matter what I want for Eureka, what we are discussing is: what is it. These are two things completely different and both angles completely legitimate to discuss / complain about.
    I am very active in FATE farm and solo mobs all the time. None of the mechanics are new, some mechanics are assigned to different mobs and that is it. You still get poisoned by the Emperor mobs, you still get ice balls from Hydras, you still see the breath attack by the dragons, you still see Scorpions to their tail attack, you still see bears just doing basic aoes, still see the same mechanics in Pazzuzu, in and out, dodge and kill adds. The only mechanic that is somewhat new is running a way from an attack that is not telegraphed. But the bombs to little exploding aoes around them. Which is a mechanic done in Brayflox normal mode but in the form of a stomp. Nothing new at all. And I am somehow in the wrong for pointing these things out?

    - Terrible gameplay, no new mechanics, but ocassionally something new assigned to different mobs
    - Terrible Fating system which is basically mindless grinding to get good experience. Does not push people to actually participate in grinding the mobs
    - Reward system is terrible. Glamour items flood in like crazy, don't need more than one. Useless confetti, useless materia most of the time.
    - Uninspiring story
    - Does not encourage partying up with friends, really. Especially with a wider spectrum of jobs, hobbies and the like. Level disparity makes for completely different experiences.
    - Does not encourage class authenticity, but Ress mages and healers
    - Poor new relic step where everything is a dyable reskin

    I can keep going for a bit, but that doesn't matter. Stop pretending that just because someone critisized without explaining what they want it to be, that somehow their critique is unfair, unsubtantiated or just "crying". Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remedi View Post
    It's possible to have a discussion of different opinions without it beign derailed into a flame war pls?
    Unfortunately, our forum community simply can not do that
    I just finish reading all of 92 pages of JP Eureka discussion thread:
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...83%AC%E3%82%AB

    Their discussion in this thread is much more civil than us, clear points are being made, opposite opinions are respected and you rarely seeing comment that directly insulting devs or S/E.
    If you takes at our own generalization forum, posters must attack S/E or dev first and label anyone holding different opinions as white knights.
    If posters can not respect the opposite opinion, there is not much useful information can be extract form this forum
    It will always end up a flame war.
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