We need better comunication with the Community team

[Vstarstruck]

They are planning a levelsync system so players who started late can catch up (note: Not talking about the levelsync for NMs, but a levelsync you can use anywhere in Eureka
EDIT: This was a mistranslation. I rewatched the stream and what they were actually talking about was an "elemental level sync" where your elemental level is also synced during F.A.T.E.s. They are planning this so NMs don't die in 10 seconds when you have players with 4~5 magicytes at a low level F.A.T.E)

we really need better communication....

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

You say we shouldn't try to silence the people that don't like the content, but isn't that exactly what you are doing to those of us who do like it?

If we don't like it, we are correct, but if we do we are blind fan boys who will take any crap the devs shovel into us, did I get that right?

[Ruf]

I agree with you that communication with the Community Team should be improved. But I think the issue is whether the dev team cares in the long run. At the end of the day, as long as people want to go for the rewards despite shortcomings of the content provided and people sub for various reasons, the devs will assume people are satisfied.

This explain the situation pretty well.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Choose your flavor?

Whoops,only one model on that picture.

I feel like you missed my point, and are trying to deflect from it by being a doofus. Carry on.

[Mahrze]

https://i.imgur.com/HGMXD3g.jpg

Choose your flavor?

Whoops,only one model on that picture.

Really, mate? I know you were trying to be deft, but all I see is you being daft af. And I don't know if I am offended by that more than I am by your continuous multi-posting.

[Ruf]

I feel like you missed my point, and are trying to deflect from it by being a doofus.

Web definition of doofus: a stupid, incompetent, or foolish person.

all I see is you being daft af.

daft: silly; foolish.

Theses are lovely & cute terms used toward me,communication folks,communication.

[Hestzhyen]

You say we shouldn't try to silence the people that don't like the content, but isn't that exactly what you are doing to those of us who do like it?

If we don't like it, we are correct, but if we do we are blind fan boys who will take any crap the devs shovel into us, did I get that right?

I think everyone takes it too personally. Other than the die-hards like this thread's OP a lot of people will chime in once or twice and that's it. But there are a lot of people saying their bit, so people will come into threads that are deliberately against their own viewpoint because they're sick of seeing it and say their piece to vent a little. Then endless "My opinion is right and you're wrong!" and "if your opinion is different don't post ITT" arguments start. It's a tale as old as time with internet forums.

[Vstarstruck]

I think everyone takes it too personally. Other than the die-hards like this thread's OP a lot of people will chime in once or twice and that's it. But there are a lot of people saying their bit, so people will come into threads that are deliberately against their own viewpoint because they're sick of seeing it and say their piece to vent a little. Then endless "My opinion is right and you're wrong!" and "if your opinion is different don't post ITT" arguments start. It's a tale as old as time with internet forums.

But I need to know why i do not see this problem on the Japanese form (or least the first 13 pages I read + spam make their own forms. I also did not see anyone being insulting.

The other thing I do not get is I just made this thread asking for more communication, and yet the person you are quoting is attacking this thread for no reason. All that post exists is for flame bait so I reported it. I do not understand why people find it so hard to stay on topic.

Web definition of doofus: a stupid, incompetent, or foolish person.

daft: silly; foolish.

Theses are lovely & cute terms used toward me,communication folks,communication.

There is a saying don't feed the trolls, stop it please, report and move on. They are only proving my point further anyway by doing that. The one has a point with the post you made with the shovels, it confused me too, don't make posts like that, doesn't help matters.

[Vhailor]

You say we shouldn't try to silence the people that don't like the content, but isn't that exactly what you are doing to those of us who do like it?

If we don't like it, we are correct, but if we do we are blind fan boys who will take any crap the devs shovel into us, did I get that right?

I think it's more that arguing in support of Eureka is simply more subjective.

From an objective standpoint, Eureka has problems. A number of them. So people who dislike the content - myself included - have an easy basis upon which to make logical arguments for feelings, while also providing constructive improvements. For individuals on the other side of the coin, however, really all there is to say is that "I like the content despite X, Y, and Z."

It's absolutely fine to say that, of course, but it's a vastly more subjective position than those criticizing Eureka. So it can be quite tricky to inject peacefully into most of the threads floating around on the forums. At best, it comes off as sort of an anecdotal note that doesn't really sway a topic; at worst, it comes off as white knighting, usually because someone stated their opinion in a manner that implicitly denies all of the objective concerns people were highlighting previously.

TL; DR: I don't think there's any widespread effort to silence the voices of those who like Eureka. I do think, however, that threads aimed at constructive criticism or venting are the wrong places to post those opinions. It's not that a position of support is invalid; it's that there's very little objective basis on which to support Eureka, whilst there's a lot of objective problems.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I think it's more that arguing in support of Eureka is simply more subjective.

From an objective standpoint, Eureka has problems. A number of them. So people who dislike the content - myself included - have an easy basis upon which to make logical arguments for feelings, while also providing constructive improvements. For individuals on the other side of the coin, however, really all there is to say is that "I like the content despite X, Y, and Z."

It's absolutely fine to say that, of course, but it's a vastly more subjective position than those criticizing Eureka. So it can be quite tricky to inject peacefully into most of the threads floating around on the forums. At best, it comes off as sort of an anecdotal note that doesn't really sway a topic; at worst, it comes off as white knighting, usually because someone stated their opinion in a manner that implicitly denies all of the objective concerns people were highlighting previously.

TL; DR: I don't think there's any widespread effort to silence the voices of those who like Eureka. I do think, however, that threads aimed at constructive criticism or venting are the wrong places to post those opinions. It's not that a position of support is invalid; it's that there's very little objective basis on which to support Eureka, whilst there's a lot of objective problems

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I'm just tired of people overblowing the amount of time required, and telling those of us who enjoy it that our experiences are wrong and that we are white knights for accepting "garbage no content diadem 3.0 trash, etc."

Could we use more communication? Sure, but we used to get quite a bit more, and as the NA/EU communities pounced on every little miss-translation and changed plan, they started communicating less, and only where there was a confirmed change.

You see this a lot in people signatures, especially relating to housing. This community just does not let go of any perceived slights, or as I've seen mentioned somewhat frequently, "slaps in the face from the devs" over things. It's no real wonder they only come to us when things are real bad to offer bits of info, or when things are confirmed to be added in the next patch/hotfix.

You will not get a plan immediately from the devs on Eureka's improvements yet, not likely until we get closer to 4.3, as anything they say now will be picked over until the final day, and then anything that was mentioned that isn't there will be in rage threads blaming the devs for lying to them. It's happened before.