We need better comunication with the Community team

[Vaer]

https://gamerescape.com/2016/11/15/f...-fan-festival/

So my question with pointing that out here is, do they realize they just copied HW and reskinned it for SB? Why are they still doing the same thing, despite stating they are aware of doing the same thing will tire people?

TBH the part where it says "the base design of FFXIV will not change" is probably the ilvl, tomestone, dungeon, MSQ, raid formula, they are mentioning. They know they are doing it, and they acknowledge it right in the statement. I presume they keep doing the same thing because it sells. Until people stop buying it they have little reason to change anything.

He's saying if they change the core of the game it will because a breakthrough happens right now in the genre but it won't return completely to something like EQ/FFXI 2004.

The last half of that statement sounds like Eureka. "Past Trend" = grinding mobs/time consuming/exp loss, "Modern Vibe" = Public Events/FATEs/WQs.

The context for the answer is being able to upgrade armor in Eureka and possibly the zodiac/anima weapons (I think the "people will get tired of it" = grinding old content for the third time for relic). Also in the interview he says Eureka isn't for everyone.

Y: We don’t. Up until now, in the theme park called FFXIV land, we went to various attractions through the Zodiac and Anima Weapon quest lines, but I think a lot of people are getting tired of that system.

Honestly this interview is so old (7 months before SB launch) by the time Eureka released they must have gone through a bunch of prototypes and scrapped things since it got delayed.

[MageBlack]

https://gamerescape.com/2016/11/15/f...-fan-festival/

So my question with pointing that out here is, do they realize they just copied HW and reskinned it for SB? Why are they still doing the same thing, despite stating they are aware of doing the same thing will tire people?

This was in the part of the conversation where they were speaking about Eureka and the possibility of having Armor as part of the Relic as well as the Weapon. Context matters.

What I took from this was the "story mode, Dungeons, 24 man, Tome gear, Savage" are all the base design. When he talked about "changing to fit future trends" he was referring to the overall question about Eureka and how this content is the non-base-design content and while they want to give a ride to their players that feels like FFXI they have to modernize it.

"Why are they still doing the same thing, despite stating they are aware of doing the same thing will tire people?"

Because you misinterpreted the question and took it out of context then built this question up so you could easily knock it down. I think there is a term for it but it escapes me at the moment.

[Emstidor]

Because you misinterpreted the question and took it out of context then built this question up so you could easily knock it down. I think there is a term for it but it escapes me at the moment.

Straw man fallacy, or strawmanning.

[KageTokage]

The lack of two-way communication when it comes to reporting cheaters is the thing that irks me the most, because it makes getting them banned a total crapshoot when you can't know why they're repeatedly being overlooked.

For all I know, I could just be missing one key detail in my reports that prevents them from being actionable.

I don't know why they don't just give the GM team authority in these matters because you can actually communicate with them to a degree you'd expect from a paid MMO.

[Vstarstruck]

The lack of two-way communication when it comes to reporting cheaters is the thing that irks me the most, because it makes getting them banned a total crapshoot when you can't know why they're repeatedly being overlooked.

For all I know, I could just be missing one key detail in my reports that prevents them from being actionable.

I don't know why they don't just give the GM team authority in these matters because you can actually communicate with them to a degree you'd expect from a paid MMO.

I always feel like reports are "lost in paperwork" and never truly investigated, or there is something missing in the report that they do not ask for more information away and tossed away. I really do not know, but it is shocking to see endgame gather bots keep doing gathering and crafting despite being reported over and over again. You being on Cactuar, I assume you know that well and thus the reason you came to post this.

For those replying to my post, I see that as "semantics" argument to defeat my point. I will try this make this as simple as I can. Regardless of what is being referenced in that quote, the base is that he is aware of the concept of " if we were to do the same thing all over again, a lot of people would get tired of it" then why are they COMPLETELY copying HW, reskinning it, pasted it with calling it "SB" ? You can say this is HW 2.0.3.35 .. not "Stormblood"

The way you progressed ARR relic and HW relic has a greater difference then the complete HW to SB expansions do. (Ill give the very first and last stages was pretty copy/paste though)

[MageBlack]

I always feel like reports are "lost in paperwork" and never truly investigated, or there is something missing in the report that they do not ask for more information away and tossed away. I really do not know, but it is shocking to see endgame gather bots keep doing gathering and crafting despite being reported over and over again. You being on Cactuar, I assume you know that well and thus the reason you came to post this.

For those replying to my post, I see that as "semantics" argument to defeat my point. I will try this make this as simple as I can. Regardless of what is being referenced in that quote, the base is that he is aware of the concept of " if we were to do the same thing all over again, a lot of people would get tired of it" then why are they COMPLETELY copying HW, reskinning it, pasted it with calling it "SB" ? You can say this is HW 2.0.3.35 .. not "Stormblood"

The way you progressed ARR relic and HW relic has a greater difference then the complete HW to SB expansions do. (Ill give the very first and last stages was pretty copy/paste though)

In your quote they specifically stated that the base of the game wont change. I see what you are talking about but, again, you are talking it out of context. The core of the game is the ilev grind and structure, they have a proven formula for delivering the basic content, this copy paste of content reduces dev time spent on the basics and should allow them to be more free to experiment, (all this is in theory). I'm not saying I agree with it or like it but I also dont care. Its the story mode, they were talking about side story mode.

You would have a better argument for your side if you were to bring up the mission statement they have worked by since the relaunch. Making the whole game accessible to everyone. That is causing more issues that just the format of their patches. This mindset has restricted player choice in job creation, the removal of the elemental wheel from all but Eureka, the quick, easy, catch up for tome gear, uninteresting gear stats, faceroll-ability of 90% of this game, and now even jump potions.

You complain about the copy paste of content but there is something to be said for knowing what you are getting yourself into. Look at Pokemon and how popular those games are with each new installment being basically the same game with maybe 10 new monsters. The core of the games are the same but people love the shit out of them. Thats the other issue, if they were copy pasting fun and exciting content, i dont think any of us would have as many issues as we do.

[Kazrah]

Look at Pokemon and how popular those games are with each new installment being basically the same game with maybe 10 new monsters. The core of the games are the same but people love the shit out of them. Thats the other issue, if they were copy pasting fun and exciting content, i dont think any of us would have as many issues as we do.

Although Pokemon installments have been more different as of late, there is a fine line between copy/paste and maintaining familiarity, and SE seems to only know this for the games they're most familiar with: single-player games.

As for the main topic, I feel like there is a more pressing question: how left in the dark is the communication team, or at least the NA community team given NA players seem to be getting information for the game from other sources (like translating JP or other foreign language posts before they reach NA outlets). Now this is not to bash the NA community team by any means, but it does beg to wonder if the reason why we get little to no information from them is because they're getting little to no information or orders from higher-ups.

[MageBlack]

As for the main topic, I feel like there is a more pressing question: how left in the dark is the communication team, or at least the NA community team given NA players seem to be getting information for the game from other sources (like translating JP or other foreign language posts before they reach NA outlets). Now this is not to bash the NA community team by any means, but it does beg to wonder if the reason why we get little to no information from them is because they're getting little to no information or orders from higher-ups.

I dont think they are as in the dark as people think, I believe their hands are tied by gun-shy executives. "do whats safe, we dont want to risk another 1.0. Our money is on the line and we pay your salary." I'm positive Yoshi-P, at the very least, knows about most of the things that are brought up frequently on the forums and I know he has spoken before about being limited in his vision. IIRC there was an interview (no-clip?) where YP was asked if he would like to work on another SE title and he replied he would rather work on his own project so he had more freedom to create a vision of his own.