revisit character customization y/n?

[Kytrin]

I just looked that up and damn, I could spend hours to days maybe even a full week just trying to make a character, that's insane...

For those curious that haven't seen it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72rFa_TscYk

Good lord... their fantasia sales would skyrocket with this setup! I mean... how many times would we look at a finished product and go "Yes! Got it right!" Only to change our minds later with "No... chin's too long/short." or "My nose looks funny in game!"

[PrincessMarbleSays]

It’s a bit difficult to achieve true individuality in character customizations given the limited options available. The only thing that sets one character apart from another is the hair variations, glamour variations and the coloring of both features, height, muscle tone, race. All of the smaller details that fine-tune the uniqueness of a character have been overlooked and I think it all deserves a revisit for the sake of giving players a more personalized character with diversity in their features.

[Akimori]

To sum up why they dont want to revist character customization:

"We done want to go back through and refit all of the armor to not clip through updated proportions and what not. So, suck it up, princesses"

[dinnertime]

It was confirmed they can't/won't add new categories of options like body sliders, body tattoos/features, Au Ra horn types etc. but can add things to existing ones like faces, facial features etc. We can at least hope for more of those for now.

It won't hurt for SE to revisit and add more to existing races other than just hairstyles. More Fantasia money to them.

[ElazulHP]

I dislike pretty much everything about BDO.... However, they DO have an amazing character creation system. I'd love to see that kind of detail make it's way here.

[Hiruki]

I was reading all post since mine, and I noticed that some people seems to be okay with the "we can't do". They CAN, and they SHOULD do what players expect to see in game.No matter what it should cost or the time they need, they have to.
I know very well what Yoshi said about this in the first Stormblood produce letter. In the case that we just could have some more options of the thing that we already have... At least I'm expecting a huge of them. No just one more face.

I don't wanna some kind of BDO character creator either. I dislike this game and how the things works there, the creator it's amazing yes. But I would like something more like GW2 if I should give an example.You can edit some features of the preset faces (with sliders), and you can pick a preset body for your character.

It's importante to keep this thread alive, so atleast we can hope see some changes in the future expansion. We have to keep posting our ideas, what we want, what we deserve as players. ♥

[Krotoan]

I was reading all post since mine, and I noticed that some people seems to be okay with the "we can't do". They CAN, and they SHOULD do what players expect to see in game.No matter what it should cost or the time they need, they have to.
I know very well what Yoshi said about this in the first Stormblood produce letter. In the case that we just could have some more options of the thing that we already have... At least I'm expecting a huge of them. No just one more face.

Are you a programmer familiar with the FFXIV systems and limitations? SE's budget and allocations for FFXIV's development?

If not that first bit you have there is pretty.. entitled.

I'm all for more customization options, but saying they HAVE to do something, cost be damned? That's just irrational. They're a business and will do whatever will net them the most profit. Requesting things you'd like to see is great, demanding change you think you're owed is likely to be ignored.

[Kacho_Nacho]

I'd like to see more character options. Things like having more faces to choose from would be a great start.

[Magusar]

The problem with changing the character creator and adding more body features would be the armor.
The crux of the issue is how the armor works in the first place, most of them replace the body model, i.e. you put on a shirt, it's actually an entire body model from the waist up minus hands and head with a shirt tacked on.
The body parts under the shirt are removed to prevent clipping and some parts are even further segmented to disappear when another piece of armor that could clip is equipped.

They would have to go through every single armor set and hand modify the bone weights, expansion nodes (breast slider), and the models themselves. Not to mention that the base body model is shared between most races, they would have to separate it for each race and tweak it.

That is the reason why the Miqo'te lost their butt from 1.0, they are now using the Midlander body since using the 1.0 body would cause clipping with all of the now condensed armor sets, shirts mostly.

Could they fix it? Yeah, probably, but it would easily take thousands of hours to: reprogram the game to fetch the proper armor depending on race, tweak every single armor set since 2.0 for every race and gender, and add more expanding nodes to the models for butt, hips, shoulders, thighs and whatever else people want to customize.

It's not going to happen, we're likely to get another FF MMO before we see them dump that many hours and money into something that won't really draw new players in.

On the bright side, at least we aren't using the old FFXIII engine anymore...but we are using a very scaled down and modified version of the FFXV engine, so there is room for possible improvement. Shiny, graphical improvements.

[Aingael]

I would love for SE to add more customization. Honestly, I’ve always disliked the race and gender lock on hairstyles. I understand that would take a lot of time, but for them to be gender locked doesn’t make sense to me. And I agree with tattoos. Honestly, seeing no body tattoos or body scars on anyone makes it seem so bland to me.