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  1. #41
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    Granyala's Avatar
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    Ifalna Sha'yoko
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    As long as they only ADD more options I am fine with it.
    What I do NOT want is a character redesign à la WoW, where my Draenei changed personality and looks.

    I like my cat just the way she is and do not want to change a thing (barring opening her braids now and then).
    I still have my free fantasia. :P
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  2. #42
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    KisaiTenshi's Avatar
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    Kisa Kisa
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    Quote Originally Posted by boopadoop View Post
    every now and then there's a thread about new races, but, idk, have we fussed about character customization very much? as much as i'd love a certain race, i think that this point what i'd really appreciate is being able to customize our characters more.

    bigger booty was one thing, and they reluctantly finally answered with, weh but textures, BUUUT...

    what about the width of certain features? shoulders & hips mainly?

    i can't imagine adjusting, at the very least those two things, to be very difficult. mostly shoulders. idk about y'all, but for meee, i'm really unhappy with how broad the ladies' shoulders and narrow their hips are--some more so than others...
    There is a reason the way things are, and apparently (at least according to FFXV's version of the same Luminous Studio engine) 600 bones that go into every model, so a lot of inflexibility relies on those bones/physics properties. XIV is probably less (considering how things like Mi'qote and Au Ra tails clip through everything) versus many games based on CryEngine or Unreal (Aion allows a lot of flexibility, but gets really ridiculous. Aion uses CryEngine. )

    Generally games have been moving towards less flexibility in customization because it increases the CPU and GPU requirements with the underlying physics (notice jiggle physics in most other games tend to be fairly stupid.) So instead you get more facial customization because it's not dependent on physics to work. That said, there really needs to be more diversity in body shapes. FFXIV's races are basically "potato sack", "nekomimi", "boring human", "not elven", "giant", with the Hyur, Mi'qote, and Au Ra all sharing enough in common that they didn't make the clothing actually fit the tails.

    There, yes, should be more diversity in the actual body shapes, but what we got with FFXIV is basically "off-pale" and "off-tan" versions of each race which are hardly different from each other. What would be really cool would be for hair styles to actually evolve. Like you start your character with a shaggy "I haven't cut my hair since I was a kid" look, take out the scissors and draw a line through each handful of hair where you want to cut it, and what angle, and thus you get a bunch more basic lengths. Or you can select from specific styles that have their own specific physics.

    Even the way characters walk could be customized so that you have people who have the movement of a dancer, and those that have the movement of a bouncer.
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  3. #43
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    Mikki's Avatar
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    Phoenix Down
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
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    Except that we DON'T get more facial customization. We have 4 faces to pick from with very minimal changes to those base faces as far as eyes/nose/lips/jaw/etc go. For some races, you really only get 2 faces. Female Elezen are a prime example of this and how 2 of the faces are just makeup version of the other 2. My character looks like 90% of other female miqote - even sun seekers despite being a moon keeper. The faces are the same with only small differences to tell the two clans apart.

    I'm fine with not getting any sliders for body types beyond the scope of what they have already given us. Although I really don't think hips/shoulder/butt adjustments are going to break anything if boob sliders don't. As long as the degree of change is reasonable and small. In any case, I'd be happy with presets for body types too. As for faces... We need WAY MORE OPTIONS. Look at all the lovely new and unique NPCs we're getting lately. GIVE US SOME NEW OPTIONS TOO.
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  4. #44
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    Zathurain's Avatar
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    Raina Primstone
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    Faerie
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    Bard Lv 66
    Quote Originally Posted by Granyala View Post
    As long as they only ADD more options I am fine with it.
    What I do NOT want is a character redesign à la WoW, where my Draenei changed personality and looks.

    I like my cat just the way she is and do not want to change a thing (barring opening her braids now and then).
    I still have my free fantasia. :P
    It's perfectly fine if you like your cat the way she is, but some of us want to have a different option other than "cutesy fanservice girl" for races such as Miqo'te and Au'ra. That doesn't mean you'd be forced to change, only that those of us who want to change actually can. They're called optionsfor a reason.
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  5. #45
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    Vonleo Slanzar
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    You guys think its that easy to just "increase hip or boob or butt sizes" but it isnt that easy they actually have to redesign EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF ARMOR to make it look right too....and that is a lot of work to do considering there are a lot of pieces of armor to rework and redesign....
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  6. #46
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    Bauer Auditore
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    3 words.... Black Desert Online. That's what a character creation should be able to do. If I wasn't scared that id empty my bank account on its cash shop it's where I would be now
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  7. #47
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    Aliiza Duskryn
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by addz3 View Post
    3 words.... Black Desert Online. That's what a character creation should be able to do. If I wasn't scared that id empty my bank account on its cash shop it's where I would be now
    I just looked that up and damn, I could spend hours to days maybe even a full week just trying to make a character, that's insane...

    For those curious that haven't seen it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72rFa_TscYk
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    Last edited by Shouko; 03-19-2018 at 08:47 AM.

  8. #48
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    Akimori's Avatar
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    Mihovil Jollasch
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    Scholar Lv 100
    To sum up why they dont want to revist character customization:

    "We done want to go back through and refit all of the armor to not clip through updated proportions and what not. So, suck it up, princesses"
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  9. #49
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    Aurelius Lyon
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    It was confirmed they can't/won't add new categories of options like body sliders, body tattoos/features, Au Ra horn types etc. but can add things to existing ones like faces, facial features etc. We can at least hope for more of those for now.

    It won't hurt for SE to revisit and add more to existing races other than just hairstyles. More Fantasia money to them.
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  10. #50
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    K'rina Sato
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    Jenova
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Shouko View Post
    I just looked that up and damn, I could spend hours to days maybe even a full week just trying to make a character, that's insane...

    For those curious that haven't seen it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72rFa_TscYk
    Good lord... their fantasia sales would skyrocket with this setup! I mean... how many times would we look at a finished product and go "Yes! Got it right!" Only to change our minds later with "No... chin's too long/short." or "My nose looks funny in game!"
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