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    Koroem's Avatar
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    Koroem Kha
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    Behemoth
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    The issue I'm having a harder and harder time with is this mentality that if its "casual content" its ok for it to be an insane grind and the items can't possibly be as good or even in the same league as raid gear. I get it, difficult content should be rewarded. However the grind for relic is getting worse and far less entertaining, and the time spent is not even close to being worth the reward given. Why is it ok to keep taking a dump on "casual" content like this? My playtime is over 525 days, I do some savage content, and ex primals. I'm not the worlds greatest player but I'm here quite a lot and Eureka proves my playtime isn't worth a damn thing. Carrot and stick content to float those sub numbers is what it feels like.
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    Runic Raven
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kisama View Post
    I'm sure that a bot will eventually be created to grind Eureka and that will make the grind much better. Its not like you'd be banned for doing it, either.
    That made me smile and sad at the same time.
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    Catherine Valestrasz
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    This is simply true. I feel the same way about FFXIV and Eureka is a bad step in the wrong direction. 17 months for something that could have been done by a student group in a month. There are games coming out of 48 h GameJams that have more content.

    I really hope they can get it together or I see the same falling apart soon because many people I know, that play this for years upon years now, are getting annoyed at the lack of actual content. And as OP has pointed out, we love the game despite its flaws. So please do something about it.
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    Byson Bristlepaw
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    Ultros
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    Excellent post. Mirrors my thoughts exactly.
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    Xystel Unaki
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    I'm really surprised its taken people this long to start worrying about the state of the game. How did the repetitive, ultra predictable 2 dungeon - 1 raid tier/24man pattern not alert you after 4 years? What about the very clear lack of original content in Stormblood or the absolutely boring and insanely easy primals that have been a thing since after Thordan? Or the constant neglect of the housing system and a failure to actually apply a fix that isn't "Throw more wards at it"?
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    Last edited by Unaki; 03-16-2018 at 01:14 AM.

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    Danny Boyo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unaki View Post
    I'm really surprised its taken people this long to start worrying about the state of the game. How did the repetitive, ultra predictable 2 dungeon - 1 raid tier/24man pattern not alert you after 4 years? What about the very clear lack of original content in Stormblood or the absolutely boring and insanely easy primals that have been a thing since after Thordan? Or the constant neglect of the housing system and a failure to actually apply a fix that isn't "Throw more wards at it"?
    A lot of us were worried in Heavensward too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss_Jane View Post
    A lot of us were worried in Heavensward too.
    I feel like many of this game's relevant content (Dungeon, raid, etc.) could be better if SE had a test realm. Nothing crazy like allowing the general public but its easy to tell the dev team doesn't actually have a deep understanding of the game from a player perspective. If they had a test realm and invited the top raid groups in the world, the players most likely to break the content and find issues, a lot of the problems with cheese strats and tuning could be easily fixed and make for a more fun experience for everyone.
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    Kaiser Sturmwind
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unaki View Post
    I'm really surprised its taken people this long to start worrying about the state of the game. How did the repetitive, ultra predictable 2 dungeon - 1 raid tier/24man pattern not alert you after 4 years? What about the very clear lack of original content in Stormblood or the absolutely boring and insanely easy primals that have been a thing since after Thordan? Or the constant neglect of the housing system and a failure to actually apply a fix that isn't "Throw more wards at it"?
    This isn't the first time people have complained about this (and were downvoted on Reddit because of it), but this time is different in that a lot of people were looking at Eureka as this dev team's last chance to implement some interesting and new content. They got nowhere close with Eureka, and it being a chimera comprised of Diadem 1.0, FATEs, and hunts isn't interesting. And it's especially disappointing (after 1.5 years of development and delays) if you had any hope at all for this breathing fresh life into the stagnant development cycle. That's why Eureka flopping is eliciting more of a reaction than other content.
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    Runic Raven
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    Im heavily concerned too... if it goes the Way of eternal Grind content for the next few patches too i might have look for another Game...... wich is kinda sad thinking how much of my heart i put into this.
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    Last edited by Araxes; 03-15-2018 at 04:48 AM.
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