“Don't like poor play? Use a static!” thoughts

[DreadRabbit]

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Holy cow! I'm so sorry that you and those newbies had to deal with someone like that

[Frizze]

It's hard for me to say as one person whether or not my exposure to the finer things in life has left me more irritable when confronted with the player-equivalent of mac & cheese and hot dogs but I think it's something that bears discussing.

You are unfairly slandering mac & cheese and hot dogs here. I think the better analogy would be something like "mall food court chinese food".

[F_Maximillian]

You are unfairly slandering mac & cheese and hot dogs here. I think the better analogy would be something like "mall food court chinese food".

Some of my favorite chinese food has been from the food court at the mall though. Definitely agree that mac & cheese and hot dogs is being unfairly slandered here. Middle school lunchroom food maybe?

[Shurrikhan]

Honestly, I feel like the logic here ought to work the other way.

Having a static allows for compromise and alternate methods.

Solo, e.g. DF, responsibility requires simple, memorable, and generally uncompromising strategies -- where what is simple coincidentally pairs closely with what is optimal in many Savage fights -- and personal awareness enough to function without relying on communication from others, including trained unspoken communication from particular others, except where such is part of effective general habits.

Logically, more should be expected from running solo. A PF then allows inferior or dependent (e.g. "heed the raid voice") play if they so choose. Though they are also free to attempt to pick the cream of the crop, the remainder still have no excuse to be incapable of sufficient fight understanding and awareness, with whatever necessary practice, when running without a static. There's is technically the harder path. So why would you go into it requiring less from yourself just because you're now alone?

Oh wait, the JP community already said all this in a much simpler manner:
- Premades for learning; RF only if you're personally responsible. Burden Join (other wholly capable) randoms only when you're ready to farm.

[RiyahArp]

Honestly, I feel like the logic here ought to work the other way.

Then why are you doing solo at all? The JP tend to not actually question this, because, well, its the JP way and we always do the JP way. If solo is harder than party, just stay in party and do everything there.

But solo has nothing to do with difficulty; solo exists because in general, requiring parties takes too much time and causes more issues than party required.

[Moogly]

Oh wait, the JP community already said all this in a much simpler manner:
- Premades for learning; RF only if you're personally responsible. Burden Join (other wholly capable) randoms only when you're ready to farm.

I would've agreed with you if western mindset was like that.
In Japan, it is part of their culture, it is basic good manners, to avoid causing trouble to others.
And even behind the anonymity of internet, that etiquette still kinda lives.
Thus it is also strongly reprimanded if you break it : e.g I heard you can/will get kicked from PF for not melding your gear.
To be honest, I don't find that excessive, and would've agreed to such community rules, but it is just not possible on western servers.
Of course, despite all this, Japanese servers still have their jerks and trolls e.g : the koike incident.
But nevertheless, the dominant mindset is the one I described. To follow on the koike incident, it was reprimanded by SE (bans) and the players : they protested by doing naked roe stand-ups, which ultimately forced the offenders to rename, change server, delete their twitter account, post an apology vid...
The japanese player base has a common culture to build their community rules on.

But you can't say the same about our servers. There are just too many people that don't care, that have different expectation from playing video games, all that due to different culture among players (maybe less on US servers, but surely on EU servers).

On a side note, if my analogy to a football game doesn't work let's try an easier one.
Consider playing with a static, like playing with your... static.
And consider roulette being like, playing with your 12 y.o bro and his 12 y.o friends, because you're just too frustrated waiting in queue, light farming on your DPS classes.

[FunkYeahDragons]

I know that players I raid with are experienced, adults, and focusing. I can't say with certainty that anyone in DF isn't literally a distracted 9-year-old who's been playing for three weeks.

People everywhere hate criticism and I've just kind of come to accept this. I can't necessarily blame people for doubting advice, although I wish they'd take it when what they're doing obviously isn't working out that well. I've received bad advice in dungeons.

Both DF and statics wear on me these days. DF because I can't really trust anyone (had a SCH ragequit because my friend who has effects off pulled mobs out of Shadowflare), and statics because so many take themselves far too seriously, burn people out, neglect their families, and sabotage friendships in pursuit of meaningless raiding achievements.

Regardless of skill, I'm burned out on the antics of various people and really just want to play with personal friends only. Nothing else seems worth it.

[TaranTatsuuchi]

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(had a SCH ragequit because my friend who has effects off pulled mobs out of Shadowflare),
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Setting the options to limited instead of off turns off almost everything, but leaves the ground abilities, such as shadowflare, visible.