Eureka feedback.

[Besame]

After forming my own low level grind/FATE party the other night, my only complaint is the lack of a level sync option. The massive penalty to XP for being partied with a higher level player or attacking a monster much lower level than you means that lower level players will increasingly be left behind.

I am L-20 now but I did all my lower leveling with mostly players a lot higher than I and the xp for the fate boss plus the amount of bosses you could do with the train was so huge, it didn't matter. If they force high to low level to synch, this will make the higher levels not invite the lower so perhaps make it an "option" at group formation. Also, there is safety in numbers with the higher players aggroing a lot of the big pooled groups of mobs along the way. Rezzers were mostly super about getting you up if you died as long as you stay with YOUR group. The only difficulty I encountered was after people turned 17 and got mounts it was hard to keep up with them. If you don't enjoy that style, make your own OR ride that NM train for huge Boss xp, the choice is yours.

[Ayirez]

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He did write that it'd be an option, so that you can chain kill mobs with friends new to the mode, not that it'd be enforced. That would be silly. I'm a fellow Lv.20 and while riding the train is by far the most effective means, doing so from levels 1 to 5 don't yield that much reward compared to chaining mobs, they should go to low level NM's sure but chaining would be better.

All in all the guy was just saying he wants to play with his friends and that lower levels get left behind which is already coming to be a reality, people selectively vet the people they're recruiting so that they're high levels.

[Besame]

He did write that it'd be an option, so that you can chain kill mobs with friends new to the mode, not that it'd be enforced. That would be silly. I'm a fellow Lv.20 and while riding the train is by far the most effective means, doing so from levels 1 to 5 don't yield that much reward compared to chaining mobs, they should go to low level NM's sure but chaining would be better.

All in all the guy was just saying he wants to play with his friends and that lower levels get left behind which is already coming to be a reality, people selectively vet the people they're recruiting so that they're high levels.

All in all I DID say they could make it an option to party synch... Chaining mobs is rough with 4-5 groups out there tagging and killing before you can get a shot in. Personally, I liked the way I leveled but it's not to everyone's taste. I don't know if they can ever make us all happy right? Now since my Bard and job Smn are done/geared, I am running with high levels in the train helping rez the lower dead and occasionally pop over when Paz is going to spawn.

[Ayirez]

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Yes, you did indeed, but the way your sentences are written you make it seem as though he presented the idea of a forced level sync rather than being given the option to. You didn't actually address much of what he was talking about either, his issue is that low level players are getting left behind due to; A) Not being invited by high level ones which I've seen firsthand countless times and have even had to do for spawning Pazuzu and the sort, and B) The high level mobs that one shot lowbies who aren't good at stealth yet and who quite frankly shouldn't be in the area in the first place. You responded to that with how you joined train parties and even if one shot someone would come along and raise you, then topped it off with a non-choice of "Join the train or find another way" of which, due to current mechanics, there is no other way to gain exp without expending a ton more effort and time without also risking missing NM's.

ALL IN ALL, rather than essentially telling him that you made it to Lv.20 in the train no problemo and he can/should too, maybe just support his idea of a party sync option and understand the difficulties he and all other lowbies are having. After making a party with 5 lowbies last night myself and taking them around to (and spawning quite easily at Lv.20) Sabo, Lord, Teles, and Emperor, I can tell you that they were pretty grateful and that not many people stop to help them out. But that's just my own first hand experience and anecdotal evidence only goes so far I suppose.

[Besame]

All in all Ayirez, perhaps don't worry so much about his post and my choices which were presented with a synch option, but rather worry about your own and what makes you happy. I am sure if he has a comment he is quite capable of stating it.

[Ayirez]

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What makes me happy is when people empathize with one another and don't have an attitude. Even in Eureka that has proven to be rather difficult to find x3 but I shall do what makes me happy indeed. Cheers

[Seyjan]

I am L-20 now but I did all my lower leveling with mostly players a lot higher than I and the xp for the fate boss plus the amount of bosses you could do with the train was so huge, it didn't matter. ...

The problem here, is that in the Eureka instance I was in, no one was spawning any FATEs except for the high level ones surrounded by mobs magnitudes more powerful then me. Half the instance seemed solely focused on spawning Pazuzu as well. I was getting hardly any EXP since no one would invite me to a party to share credit with a lowly level 3 and my level was so much lower than the FATE. It simply wasn't worth it to stay and die repeatedly and hope someone would rez me so I didn't have to run all the way back and likely die again.

It wasn't until my party was formed and we spent hours doing what the higher level players couldn't be bothered doing that the level 1-5 FATEs even started showing up. And even then the train came by once the low level FATE spawned and it was dead shortly after. The only reason my party I formed got gold on them is because we didn't have to run across the zone as we were already there to start attacking as soon as a few more people appeared. My whole party managed to get to level 5/6 before some of us had to leave.

But this situation is going to continue to be a problem for low level players in Eureka and it will only get worse as the content ages and more instances become "Focus on Pazuzu spawn", which is why I'd really like to see an optional party level sync in there. We can do it in every other instanced duty in the game and it could be done in XI from what I understand, why not here?

[Besame]

I hear you Sey about dragging lowers to Paz. I had ppl try that with me several times but as long as there were a couple of us left at the train, I stayed with it. I too had to avoid the dangers of high level mobs when lower and I stayed huddled with my group in mid-train to escape getting tagged and I did switch instances seeking out better parties for me sometimes. Was not fun but I now have relic weapons and gear on my bard and Smn. Hopefully they make changes that satisfy all players. The PF for Paz alone is a good idea. I only go in there now for xtra Paz feathers and tomes. I use my Smn only so I can hang back and pick up any dead stragglers that healers don't.