Why does SE want Relics to be boring?

[ElazulHP]

I'm still grinding, but my brain hurts doing it and I need alcohol to get through it. Killing the same bear over and over again is not only boring but frustrating. I can see this burning me out and making me want to quit the game if I do it enough.

[Chevronone]

They simply are burnt out and can no longer innovate. Might be time for new some new blood in leadership.

[Sindele]

Titan Hard was only too much for most average players because the server tick rate was utter garbage. That said, 'interesting' and 'challenging' are not in any way synonyms, so the idea that 'boring grind' is the only option left to relics to still be 'casual' is utterly ridiculous.

[Conando]

Titan Hard was only too much for most average players because the server tick rate was utter garbage. That said, 'interesting' and 'challenging' are not in any way synonyms, so the idea that 'boring grind' is the only option left to relics to still be 'casual' is utterly ridiculous.

I mean really, it can be a grind and still at least be interesting too. This is just the worst of the lot because there's literally no other options than killing trash for 2 hours and fighting the VERY occasional Notorious Monster. They put us in what's basically a new zone, yet there's actually NOTHING to do in it. Even giving people challenges and adding more quests would have helped, but they decided for whatever reason people would like just killing trash for their relic weapon. I refuse to believe most casuals find this engaging. I'm midcore and I certainly don't.

[Aylis]

The relic is designed very much at its core to be like roulette's. A way to get you to do the content you've already done or don't want to do again as a way to both help new players and to make the early game and open world seem more active then it would be without either in place. This won't ever change.

[ThysGuy]

I've been playing FFXIV since around Shiva's debut. I've played long enough to have done the Zodiac weapon for BLM AND the Anima weapon for BLM and DRG. I'm absolutely NOT against a long meaningful grind for an awesome looking weapon. What I AM against, is mind numbing bore.

First off, both previous relic weapons had you doing an variety of steps during each stage of its refinement, to break up the boredom. ARR even had UNIQUE steps, starting with the Beast tribes, crafting weapons, melding materia, and a unique instances, the Chimera and the Hydra.

When I say meaningful, I mean that at the end of the grind, after all the boring grinds, you had a UNIQUE weapon. Something unlike anything previously seen in the game. Even if it wasn't BiS, it was AWESOME LOOKING! Eureka gear? It's literally just glowing versions of the gear given to you when you turn 70. Gear you've had since the very beginning of Stormblood.........REALLY!?

[PotatoTree]

1.0 Relics had this fun 4 man trial part that was pretty cool. They should add that back.

[Felis]

1.0 Relics had this fun 4 man trial part that was pretty cool. They should add that back.

But this was also a grind

[Tinibou]

I don't understand, in a kind of gamedesign point of view, how you can get to that result... Something as boring and uninspiring than that. OK they can save some time with using already known mobs and all. That could be OK.
But as for the content, they could have so many things to make it less mindless and boring... it's like they didnt even try to think about it ! Disappointing...

[BillyKaplan]

I stopped looking at this as a relic grind and have to say my enjoyment of it went up considerably since. I'm doing it for the awards from the lockboxes (CARBY SLIPPERS), the story and Krile, while focusing mostly on NMs which makes this more like hunts than a mindless, horrible grind. By removing the element of the relic grind from the equation, I'm also not in any rush because by the time I'll get the items they'll be outdated anyway, and I'm in no rush for that sort of glamour. Though even that's not as horrible if you focus on NMs.
It's conflicting, though. For the awards alone I feel like people would still run this (though admittedly not as much) even without the relic, but this forces everyone who wanted the relic into content they can't stand and don't have the right point of view for. That is not to say it's a wrong view-point to have, just one that clashes with the content.