Eureka - from a FFXI point of view

[Penthea]

I like it - even if I did get hard by the rewind bug

Rewind bug?

[Fynlar]

Oh Jesus Christ, if the Magian Trials are the standard by which we're judging content now we should just shut the entire game down. I've never met a single person that enjoyed that

Hi, here's one.

[Darrcyphfeid]

Hi, here's one.

More power to you, brother. After doing the Mythic WS unlocks, the early stage Empyrean weaponry trials with the lottery spawns, the stuff required for Yoichinoyumi, and assisting my wife with the staves I have a very visceral reaction whenever those things are even mentioned lol

[Reynhart]

Hi, here's one.

Yeah, let's find two more people and we could make a light party in Eureka !

To expand on that, I loved Magian Trials because they were different of everything XI did before. For once, rewards were not random, and people actually helped each other when a notorious monster spawned, instead or simply rushing to be the first one to kill.

Frankly, I'm interested in Eureka for the simple fact that it works differently than the usual content, and I wanted some change of pace for a long time. I think FFXIV need something a little less casual friendly, because some people like this type of content. Maybe they're masochist, yeah, but they're still XIV player nonetheless, and would like content for their personality too.

[Fynlar]

I liked having a variety of "non-endgame" stuff to do get decent weaponry. Honestly not much different from animus books for 2.x relic, something I also enjoyed.

Problem?

Oh, another thing I liked about the trials: they had me thinking a lot about all the previous locations in the game I'd been to and possibly done experience parties in, to try to figure out where would be the most optimal places to try to get trials done. I happen to appreciate things that make you think back on your past experiences in a game in such a manner, particularly when it's a game you'd already devoted years to playing... maybe that's weird, idk

[Vstarstruck]

I liked having a variety of "non-endgame" stuff to do get decent weaponry. Honestly not much different from animus books for 2.x relic, something I also enjoyed.

Problem?

You ... had to go to different areas and do different things at least. The only issues with 2.0 relics was some rng rate and some of the BS fates that fail unless you camp them because they fail in 1-5 seconds after appearing.

[Darrcyphfeid]

Honestly not much different from animus books for 2.x relic, something I also enjoyed.

Oh my god you're a masochist!

But no, I jest. Your reasoning is solid and is more or less in line with how I feel about the XI vs Eureka as a whole. The base concept is there, but all the extra stuff that came with it isn't. That is to say, what you posted vs "It's basically the same as the Magian Trials because it wants to you kill oodles of one specific mob!"
Or an NM. Or stuff. ...Basically Magian Trials minus any variety, I guess.

[Fynlar]

The FATEs (some of them, anyway) were arguably the worst part of the books, yeah. Anything that had you standing there camping where the FATE spawns because you had no idea when it would show up next... yeah, that was a low point. I would have found it more acceptable if it was something like "do 5 fates in X zone" or something instead of requiring very specific ones. Nevertheless, I did still finish all of those books, ten times for all ten weapons... so I couldn't have hated it THAT much...

EDIT to respond to things from the future because stupid post limits.

My point to you was 2.0 relics have no comparison to this diadem reskin, it can take 24 hrs of play time or 3 months, I am not doing a reskin on outdated content unless I have personal friends that want to do it, and atm that does not exist. I do not know why people are trying to force themselves in thinking this area is ok, what is the point in that? You shouldn't have to force your self or convince yourself something is fun. That shows there is problems with it. If something is well designed I would be willing to do it regardless what the reward is.

It sure is a good thing I didn't say Eureka was "ok" and that I have been very upfront in stating it has problems (to the point where I've actually just hit the daily post limit for the first time, and I don't have a small amount of posts), or else people might have misinterpreted how I really felt and misattributed things to me that I never actually said. Oh wait.

[Vstarstruck]

The FATEs (some of them, anyway) were arguably the worst part of the books, yeah. Anything that had you standing there camping where the FATE spawns because you had no idea when it would show up next... yeah, that was a low point. I would have found it more acceptable if it was something like "do 5 fates in X zone" or something instead of requiring very specific ones. Nevertheless, I did still finish all of those books, ten times for all ten weapons... so I couldn't have hated it THAT much...

1,5,20, it does not matter how many you did or i did or what the general public did. We need to be here telling them, Hey this part is really messed up please change it.

My point to you was 2.0 relics have no comparison to this diadem reskin, it can take 24 hrs of play time or 3 months, I am not doing a reskin on outdated content unless I have personal friends that want to do it, and atm that does not exist. I do not know why people are trying to force themselves in thinking this area is ok, what is the point in that? You shouldn't have to force your self or convince yourself something is fun. That shows there is problems with it. If something is well designed I would be willing to do it regardless what the reward is.

future because stupid post limits.



It sure is a good thing I didn't say Eureka was "ok" and that I have been very upfront in stating it has problems (to the point where I've actually just hit the daily post limit for the first time, and I don't have a small amount of posts), or else people might have misinterpreted how I really felt and misattributed things to me that I never actually said. Oh wait.

You where suggesting it was ok because 2.0 relics where ok and you did a lot of them, you are contradicting yourself.

[Deedsie]

Fynlar, there's a familiar name I haven't seen in a while.