What we have learned...

[Kenshiro069]

[Aniya_Estlihn]

Upvoting you into the heavens.
Everyone who views this thread should do the same.

If it Isn't fun, you're doing it wrong.

I feel like they forgot this key-point right here.

[Zojha]

I feel like they forgot this key-point right here.

They re-wrote it later into:
"If it isn't fun, put more rewards on top."

The change unfortunately didn't make it into the slides.
/s

[silentwindfr]

They re-wrote it later into:
"If it isn't fun, put more rewards on top."

The change unfortunately didn't make it into the slides.
/s

you realize that eureka don't have the reward on top of the boring grind?

[Rojan]

[Araxes]

Eureka proved that they have forgotten about those 4 facts.

[Zojha]

you realize that eureka don't have the reward on top of the boring grind?

They put one of the most, if not the most desired weapon in an expansion cycle in there and worse, intend to keep it in there.

I wager they thought that would suffice. But if it doesn't, I wholly expect them to add more. DW, SE got this.

[silentwindfr]

They put one of the most, if not the most desired weapon in an expansion cycle in there and worse, intend to keep it in there.

I wager they thought that would suffice. But if it doesn't, I wholly expect them to add more. DW, SE got this.

you realize that for see if a reward is good you need to add time, effort into the balance. here for get the relic weapon, you will need to gather an amout of protean that are insane and is not even the last step, in 1hr30 i did get 7! because it's totally random...

plus we are not sure that the weapon is that desirable, since well it's fairly possible that it's only a 350 soo far... like the armor.
the trouble here is i feel they have added step that was means for the 4.1... that why we do get 3 upgrade to do before reach the relic weapon really.
you do have grind the same item that can drop from any monster (means you can decide to farm always the same monster without go anywhere else) for upgrade the weapon (and armor) from 290>335>340>345>350.... someone did point out that it recquire more of 4300 protean.... insane... if my luck remain like this... i will need more of 614 time 1hr 30 minutes for get this done... meaning more of 900 hours... means about 38 day of 24 hours of grind...insane.

by the way i have a life next to the game, like a loooooot of people, then at best ,i can play 2-4 hours max per day... i still have my cap and raiding to do... where i'm means to find enough time to grind this mess?

that why i say the reward is not there, because the effort/time/reward ratio is horrible, i will go a bit farer, it's almost as messy that EA way for the progression of star war battlefront (without the payed lootbox) it was too recquiring tons of time spend in the game for get all the reward.

ps: the best it's this time needed is only for 1 job!

[Deceptus]

Commenting so someone sees this.

A boring grind for outdated gear IS NOT FUN

[Gleipni]

Commenting so someone sees this.

A boring grind for outdated gear IS NOT FUN

Eureka in a nutshell