What's your first impression of Eureka?

[Alleo]

Yeah, saw few familiar names from here AFKing when I am busy helping to pop NM. They are probably busy here calling people white knight or diadem 4.0 lover. Taking full advantage of Eutrka while bashing at it, why not?

Again just because someone dislike something quite much still can mean that they are going in this for multiple reasons. Mounts, glamour, the fear of being left behind when a new (and maybe better) part of Eureka appears. So seeing them here complaining but still doing it is nothing strange imo. (And its strange to just use this as a discussion point..feels just like wanting to stoke a flame) People can do both. They do something but still find it bad. Heck we are told quite often that we should give it chances after chances and that we should do it to have an opinion.

So yes why should they not? If they are still doing it after getting every reward from there then that would be strange. Maybe they are helping someone out and helping a friend is more important than not doing it. There are so many reason and yet you go for an attack. :/ Not much better really than the person you are calling out. Especially since they are like only two people that have used such insults in their posts and they are not from the same data center. As far as I remember you only get people from the same datacenter?

But that is my last post to such an off topic. Dont want to further such a disussion, especially when its already used to envoke anger and attacks.

Why cant we just discuss things without attacking other opinions..and yes that goes for both sides.

[Jijifli]

Yeah, saw few familiar names from here AFKing when I am busy helping to pop NM. They are probably busy here calling people white knight or diadem 4.0 lover. Taking full advantage of Eutrka while bashing at it, why not?

"OMG YOU BARELY DID EUREKA YOUR OPINION IS INVALID"

"OMG YOU WENT IN THAT MEANS YOU MUST LIKE IT LULULUL"

Can we please, and I mean PLEASE, stop having mixed messages to the people who don't like it? I've been told that I have completely no idea how mindblowingly amazing Eureka is, simply because I didn't do it enough. I hit level 7, I went in there 4 times in total, and I'm being told now that, because I did something, I MUST like the content.

But no. I hate it. I think it's garbage and shouldn't have taken this long. I miss when you didn't need an 8 year degree in game design to have a negative opinion on something.

And as extra clarification, I have met people that told me Eureka is the best content in this game. Only makes the taste more sour.

[Tanathya]

"OMG YOU BARELY DID EUREKA YOUR OPINION IS INVALID"

"OMG YOU WENT IN THAT MEANS YOU MUST LIKE IT LULULUL"

Can we please, and I mean PLEASE, stop having mixed messages to the people who don't like it? I've been told that I have completely no idea how mindblowingly amazing Eureka is, simply because I didn't do it enough. I hit level 7, I went in there 4 times in total, and I'm being told now that, because I did something, I MUST like the content.

But no. I hate it. I think it's garbage and shouldn't have taken this long. I miss when you didn't need an 8 year degree in game design to have a negative opinion on something.

And as extra clarification, I have met people that told me Eureka is the best content in this game. Only makes the taste more sour.

I'm Lv.19, got 4 relics, a few different Anemos armor pieces, and I absolutely loathe Eureka, with a flaming passion.

[Deceptus]

Spent about a week at it (super casual), level 9 currently.

1) They really need to put daily quests in (exp = to 1/4 of a level a day).

2) They really need to one of the following two things:

-Increase lower level mob exp (help people catch up)

or

-Severely decrease the timer on the lower level NM fate spawn. If you missed the beginning of the instance, you're screwed as a lower level.

3) They really need to do something about people blowing up the lower level fates due to extra magia crystals (proper syncing). The lower level ones don't last more than 2 minutes.

The fact that these basic things weren't done astounds me in content that was 17 months in development.

[Divinemights]

Why cant we just discuss things without attacking other opinions..and yes that goes for both sides.

I am already calling not to respond to pointless rant in prior post.
issue is already nailed the coffin after Yoship walk.
Eureka is staying and improvements and new features are coming in 4.3
Making progressive comments and suggestions rather than pointless rant and labeling.

[Kusanagi7]

im only doing eureka cuz it has story attached to it other than that its still boring ._.

[Fyce]

"OMG YOU BARELY DID EUREKA YOUR OPINION IS INVALID"

"OMG YOU WENT IN THAT MEANS YOU MUST LIKE IT LULULUL"

Nobody said that because you go in it means you like it. What is being said is that if you keep your sub and go in, you deem the content worthy of your time for whatever reason. This is different than "liking it".

Also, something else was discussed in regards to some people claiming that they hate both the content and the rewards, yet go in anyway. It's either hypocrisy and love for flaming on forums, or that these people found a strong enough incentive which isn't gameplay or rewards. Either way, they do participate in one of the metrics used by SE to decide how successful is that content.
Keep in mind that in the eyes of SE "successful content" doesn't strictly translates "content that people like to do". "Content which keep people subbed" might be enough for them to think that the content is "successful".

[Vstarstruck]

My comment on how the MSQ is important is not related to one's personal appreciation of the story, but the fact that almost every content isgated behind it.

Hitting skip and ignoring the story is a thing, it is not important to some, this became clear with the MSQ roulette debates.

People are free to run any content they want. It's still puzzling for me that someone run something when they obviously hate it, that's all. I love the concept of the relic, but I certainly wouldn't do it if it required tome farming like the previous did.

You still do not see what the problem is you are implying here? You made it quite clear you refuse and try to understand any prospective outside your own.

Getting tomes when seeking other rewards is not the same as "tome farming". For example, I didn't run any expert roulette since I earned enough dungeon drops to be able to enter Deltascape, no lvl 70 roulette ever, never did 4.1 and 4.2 dungeons after the first clear unless I was helping someone, etc...

Doing it wrong. farming for dungeons is a complete waste of time. This only reinforces the fact you do not understand the idea when one compares how much you have to do in one sitting. The fact you had to farm for lul ilevel 300 drops is.. mind boggling. Why would you waste your time like that? How long did that take? You could buy crafted gear, 20 mins a day for 5 days, not doing something 20+ times because you are subject to rng.

I assume you are so stuck on your narrow view of things you missed Jijifli's point?

You know, lets put everything together you said thus far, you think glams, mounts, minions are useless (despite liking a "content" that is purely there for glams, minions, mount. (People want dyable AF, I doono how you can miss this point so badly) You do not see "I didn't run any expert roulette since I earned enough dungeon drops to be able to enter Deltascape" how this is the same as tome farming? People run expert once a day, for 5 days a week for gear, you did stuff to get gear drops, same objective. But lets assume for argumentative sake you are spending less time overall because you do not want to farm gear or whatever your objective is. So if you are not farming mounts, minions, glams, does not craft, does not gather... what are you doing? What confuses me is someone playing this game for this long doing absolutely nothing till diadem 3.0 fate train came out. This confuses me, why spend money to do nothing? People are here because they care about the overall heath of the game and care where their money is going. At some point it is a worry if there will be enough players to talk with, to play with, or are we just going to be overran with bots?

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post4627993
This is what white knighting leads to, fighting against needed fixes, all you do is harm the game further. I personally do not understand why people want to do harm to the game they like, are you that trapped in your point of view?
https://i.imgur.com/VtCUHXa.png

Yeah, saw few familiar names from here AFKing when I am busy helping to pop NM. They are probably busy here calling people white knight or diadem 4.0 lover. Taking full advantage of Eutrka while bashing at it, why not?

least people that dislike it are giving constrictive criticism, not flame war bait.

At the same time at least one of them is just here for troll attempts or to increase attacks..(maybe to get this thread locked?) Its just better to ignore their posts since they are fine to ignore answers to them anyway. (Still waiting on the answer to my Eureka question) This will just end in a flame war otherwise.

Looks like you are still going to wait.All that person knows how to do is insult people for disliking something they like, that or they have a true objective to white knight SE.

(And its strange to just use this as a discussion point..feels just like wanting to stoke a flame)

Because it is. They just want to flame people that dislike it hence this post:

Why are you still bothering with these 2?
The community did not hate Eureka, it is a small portion of people hate it with majority treating it as an optional content (they don't care).
Eureka is staying and getting more features and improvements at 4.3.
Also after I saw the JP Yoship Walk at niconico, I am getting a feeling that Eureka is not only an optional content for relic weapon/armor, it is also a trail experiment for 5.0 open world contents and leveling.
I stop bothering with the topic when I saw one of them inside Eureka today.
Let them fight a losing battle.
If they think Eureka is diadem 3.0 let them be.

Also it took me 9 week to get 5 pieces of ilvl 360 gear and 5 weeks for 5 pieces of ilvl 350 gears from Sigma.
It only took me one week to get two relic weapons and 5 pieces of SAM relic armor and 5 pieces of Ninja relic armor
I also have 6 feathers i dont know what to do with it
I only player Eureka for 2.5 hours a day
They need to stop preaching people about grinding and time sink.

I found this post most offensive because it does not represent what I am saying, trying to word twist to make the matter worse.

[Divinemights]

/facepalm

Calling and labeling anyone disagree of having opposite opinion with White Knight or Diadem 3.0 lover ..
Ok...
Who is more insulting here?
Basically, anyone that disagrees with you directly is considered as offensive by you, what is new?

[Tanathya]

/facepalm

Calling and labeling anyone disagree of having opposite opinion with White Knight or Diadem 3.0 lover ..
Ok...
Who is more insulting here?

To be fair, you've got a tendency to twist what's being said to your favour. You did that to me when I wasn't talking to you in the first place except for a statement about the likeness to FFXI, not even opening any kind of debate about it, and decided to make a case of everything you said that I didn't quote, nor referred to it.

People need to calm down, everyone, whether you like it or not.