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  1. #1331
    Player
    Mizuhoe's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Eureka Thurston
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    Midgardsormr
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    Archer Lv 60
    I agree things dont follow the entire map. But gamers today cant handle that hardcore playstyle it use to have.

    In the end i feel more people want this kind of grind content then people want to admit
    (1)

  2. #1332
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    Savagelf's Avatar
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    New Gridania
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    Character
    Aribeth Lightbringer
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    Eureka remind me ffxi make me miss my dragoon dragonling
    (2)

  3. #1333
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    Remedi's Avatar
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    Remedi Maxwell
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    Cerberus
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Irishfae View Post

    3) I'd like FATES to spawn faster, but that probably won't happen.
    Don't quote me exactly on this since it might've been sheer luck, but it feels that spawn of NM is proportional on ppl in the zone and if it was a fresh instance, but as said don't quote me on that might just be sheer luck
    (0)

  4. #1334
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    kupokage's Avatar
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    Amanda's Husband
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    I finally got my Anemos weapon and entire armor set today for my Sch. I've also gotten all the rare loot box and NM drops that we're aware of.

    I do not see myself grinding for a second job. It's too much and too boring.

    But I ABSOLUTELY WILL go back in just to read the shout banter and res folks around the map. Especially in NM fates as I play paramedic unsynced. As opposed to standing in Mor Dhona 3.0 or The Goblet waiting for my que to pop.

    My faith in the FF community was definitely restored when I died en route to the level 13 Magictite and shouted for a res when I saw a Red Mage die trying to get to me. Then 15 seconds away from a forced return I see another Red Mage sprinting by with a Dual Cast rez and Swiftcast Rez for me and the other who had died trying to get to me. Before I can even get up, he/she was already gone.

    Eureka allows those type heroic acts and I feel its great for a community that has been extra toxic as of late.
    (2)

  5. #1335
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    Valdegarde's Avatar
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    Hildegarde Rosea
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Heck, i got up to chain 21 by myself killing some mobs. As a SAM, the least sustainable job there is.
    Sorry, this particular point I wanted to touch upon. The main thing I've been using Eureka for is to perfect my rotations on each job in lieu of a training dummy, so I've challenged myself to get numerous chain 30s on each job. Samurai is actually one of the better sustained jobs in Eureka, bloodbath is incredible and second wind + merciful eyes takes care of sudden dips, plus you can slot leg sweep too. I needed far less Eurekan potions on Samurai than, say, Bard, or even Dark Knight.

    A lot of time spend and APM for almost nothing by the way. I've been doing this like 2~3 hours a day since Tuesday and haven't broken level 6. May as well that instead of a training dummy, though. Or maybe not, it's kinda nothing either way.
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  6. #1336
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    Krotoan's Avatar
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    Krotoan Argaviel
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Remedi View Post
    real question question to ppl that don't like this content ( I don't like it either) why do you feel like that you need to be so aggressive to the points of those liking it? What is the problem exacltyù? Can't they enjoy something we don't like?

    Because frankly now it's becoming absurd
    I'm constantly replying to the.. insanity that occurs in these threads because I want it counted that:
    -I don't like the content and I have many reasons to not like it.
    -I don't like that I HAVE to do it NOW in order to not be left behind to solo grind.
    -I'm annoyed that relic progression is locked behind this since if I want the new relic weapon, I also HAVE to do this NOW otherwise it turns from an investment of 20-25 hours to 100 hours +.

    There are a few people who like to make things dramatic on both sides. You can probably safely ignore them. I hope you have seen the reasons that eurekas detractors have given as being valid, because many of us love this game but are disappointed with this latest "innovation".

    Quote Originally Posted by pyroxferroite View Post
    It's more fun with friends.
    Nearly everything is. I went to report a robbery with my friends. It was more fun than the time I went alone (seriously, not a made up story). This is not a positive point for eureka. Friends make things fun, that's why they're your friends.

    Quote Originally Posted by Remedi View Post
    Don't quote me exactly on this since it might've been sheer luck, but it feels that spawn of NM is proportional on ppl in the zone and if it was a fresh instance, but as said don't quote me on that might just be sheer luck
    NM's are based off weather and kills. People have all but defined it. It's possible this number may vary with instance population, but most posts agree the number to spawn has steadily stayed around 100.
    (10)
    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

  7. #1337
    Player RiyahArp's Avatar
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    Riyah Arpeggio
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    The more I do it, the more that it angers me.

    Everything is against trying to grind mobs in a normal party like the ffxi party it wants to be. The mob density is absurd, and oh, btw lets spawn adds with aggro conditions at night or in weather that it can be impossible to avoid. Did you know DRK's pulling tool, unleash, counts as magic for magic aggro? I learned that. If your tank dips below a certain level of health? Blood aggro. In FFXI, they spaced mobs a lot less densely in areas.

    The exp ratio is balanced so you have to be within a too narrow range. The exp penalty is absurdly high...one death as early as level 8 knocks off 10k exp or more. If you didn't nolife it at start, you face an uphill battle just trying to get parties, and the stupid fate chain stuff is slowing down because high levels dont need low levels fates if they can farm pazuzu through instance hops.

    There's evena good chance it might die outright, because it's probably not that hard for them to get massive amounts of tokens to get every relic.

    Idk, im very frustrated at the moment. What's worse is that by the time SE actually responds, it will be dead content; waiting a month or more for a patch isn't going to help.

    ..oh, and by the way now the fate train is harder if you are below 9 since the high levels can kill the mobs faster than you can get there, gj SE
    (10)
    Last edited by RiyahArp; 03-19-2018 at 02:27 PM.

  8. #1338
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    Nestama's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Vstarstruck View Post
    I just do not get how someone is "happy" with something we had already:
    You don't need to get it. You just need to deal with/accept the fact that there are people who enjoy it and stop (making it seem like you're) trying to tell them not to.

    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    NM's are based off weather and kills. People have all but defined it. It's possible this number may vary with instance population, but most posts agree the number to spawn has steadily stayed around 100.
    True for a couple. I'm pretty sure only two spawn if it's windy (which seems to be the most common weather), while others will only spawn at night (because the mobs you have to kill spawn at night).
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    Last edited by Nestama; 03-19-2018 at 01:43 PM.

  9. #1339
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    Ralanath's Avatar
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    Kerrich Rose
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    One concern I have... and I may be in the minority, but..

    Because people are doing nothing but running these "trains" from one area to the other solely for NM events to show up, I often lag to the point of being disconnected. And because people who are several levels ahead of me, I'm trying to join an event that won't really benefit me.

    I'm hearing the same complaint from users on PC and not so much on PS4. Just makes it hard to try and progress with this system set up as is... definitely not a fan.
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  10. #1340
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    Vstarstruck's Avatar
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    Beastmistress Milk
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    You don't need to get it. You just need to deal with/accept the fact that there are people who enjoy it and stop (making it seem like you're) trying to tell them not to.
    Maybe I am in unique with the following then. I do not like people that just blindly accept things given (esp when you are paying money for it) it because it slows down trying to get things changed for the better. That kind of thinking just tells me they would like anything given to them without analyzing, i/e was 17 months worth of effort put in this? are we getting enough out of this to warrant the loss in content we had to deal with for SB. Since those answers are no with anyone reasonable thought, it confuses me why this is accepted. You can program fate trains ANYWHERE, no excuse for us losing so much for this. I seen some posts here where others even replied on the lines of "SE is a business, they do not get our appreciation for everything they do. We give them money so we have a right to criticize when something is not working"

    This also tells SE since people do accept very little as passable, they can milk them of money with minimal effort. Never questioning things and being willing to be taken advantage of... I will never understand.

    With all the delays and time spent at least, we should had the following on day 1:
    search features/ easier ways to group up.
    some sort of daily bonus quests
    level sync so it is not hard to make parties once all the no lifing is done
    Relic gear/ weapons with fully customization sub stats (HW/ARR relics)

    I do not understand how this bare bones content is accepted by some with all the delays and content trunking
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    Last edited by Vstarstruck; 03-19-2018 at 02:21 PM.

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