DRK - Please add anti-knockback move

[Dualgunner]

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Just going to add two, one is unconfirmed but the other I abused all through ARR + HW as a DRG main:

Evasive Jump is the OG knockback prevention. It's also now 30s as opposed to 60s. I've also heard that, correctly timed, Repelling Shot can negate knockbacks with the same methodology: it comes down to knowing how they script knockbacks. It's really just a string that pulls the character along the arena (one of the Stormblood hype letters talked about this, the same one that went over the meaning behind Sophia's lyrics--maybe it was fanfest?) so any ability that overwrites most/all movement takeovers with other movement will save you from knockbacks.

EDIT: It's also why gapclosers negate them as well.

[Aana]

Just going to add two, one is unconfirmed but the other I abused all through ARR + HW as a DRG main:

Evasive Jump is the OG knockback prevention. It's also now 30s as opposed to 60s. I've also heard that, correctly timed, Repelling Shot can negate knockbacks with the same methodology: it comes down to knowing how they script knockbacks. It's really just a string that pulls the character along the arena (one of the Stormblood hype letters talked about this, the same one that went over the meaning behind Sophia's lyrics--maybe it was fanfest?) so any ability that overwrites most/all movement takeovers with other movement will save you from knockbacks.

EDIT: It's also why gapclosers negate them as well.

Virtually any knockback mechanic can be countered by any character dash move if timed properly so long as the mechanic doesn't include a stun. Different character dashes have shorter/longer animations which affect your timing, but they all work. Jump. Onslaught, tackle, repelling shot, whatever.

As to 'everyone' having anti knockback specific actions. They are all role skills. You have to sacrifice something to put it on your bar. Pld is the only one that has it built into their kit (Holmgang is wasted as a knockback preventer and has a strange and sorted history that landed it where it is now, and existed when war didn't have a dash.), and wouldn't you know, they are the only melee-ish class that doesn't have a dash. Drk has one. War has one. Drg/mnk/nin have ways to get back to the fray. Pld doesn't. That's why it has a way to ignore them. Drk doesn't need a pld button and tank role skills are tight enough as it is without adding an unnecessary hold your ground skill. SE has already dealt with this. War/Drk get dashes. Pld prevents knockbacks.

Make plunge the same speed and distance as onslaught is all that's needed.

[HaelseMikiro]

or just make Plunge match it's peer with Onslaught. sure WAR has holmgang, but that's just an additional effect to it's invuln skill.

Be careful what you wish for, otherwise SE will make Plunge cost MP and be a dps loss when used cooldown, lol

[Tint]

Be careful what you wish for, otherwise SE will make Plunge cost MP and be a dps loss when used cooldown, lol

sounds good for me. i don't want to use my utility skills for damage anyway.

however, they should just increase the range already. getting pushed out of the range of plunge makes the gap closer almost useless...

[Eyvhokan]

Can it be put on Dark Mind?

Phantom Train (or rather Remorse') knockback is called All in the Mind or something like that.

Be careful what you wish for, otherwise SE will make Plunge cost MP and be a dps loss when used cooldown, lol

I'd rather it be DPS neutral (or slight loss, except it is a gain when it increases uptime), to be used as a mobility tool, and the overall damage be just rolled into a potency increase of heavy slash or something. Onslaught is a really well designed ability that is a tool that has a purpose rather than 'press on cooldown for damage'.

[Phileas]

PLD: Tempered Will + Hallowed if you really need it (180s, 420s)
WAR: Timed charge + Holmgang (20s + 10 guage, 180s)
DRK: Timed leap (30s

Inner release also negates knock back for WAR.

[kashi11]

Inner release also negates knock back for WAR.

Wow. DRK should get it for delirium, although I'd be happy if it was tacked onto Dark Mind to bring it out of its magical damage only niche.

[Dio_Tiferet]

Add permanent knockback immunity if you wear 5 overmelded pieces of accessory to make up for SE's dumb tank gear design.

[Kurando]

What if Salted Earth offered a passive buff to DRK whilst they are standing in it that negates most knockback attacks? Essentially the buff should last until you suffer knockback then it would disapate even if Earth is still on going. It shouldn't cause any major issues to DPS loss or anything in theory, but it's an idea.

[kashi11]

Anti-knockback while standing in Salted Earth would be nearly 50% ultime, that's too much. Also since its part of your DPS rotation, it's used on CD or it's a DPS loss. I'd rather see it tied to Dark Mind. Or added to anticipation in tank roles, though PLD and WAR don't need anymore antiknockbacks.