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    Rubytoe's Avatar
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    Wedge Ironworks
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    Lamia
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    Machinist Lv 87

    Just buff Bloodspiller.

    It's simple and wouldn't take any effort. Increase its overall potency by 40. So that breaking your TBN will be the same, or if not better than using dark arts. As for OT, you'll be dumping TBN's 6-7k hp shields on the MT every 15 seconds, and of course time them right so they can break and make sure you plan ahead for when a tank buster comes. A 10-12k shield on yourself and a 6-7k shields for the MT every 15ish seconds really adds up on mitigation in the long run.
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    Tint's Avatar
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    Karuru Karu
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    Shiva
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    Fisher Lv 100
    if i wanted to spam shields on the MT i would play scholar :\
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    Nana Hya
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    Feels like wow's prot war rotation in legion, so no :s
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    Launched's Avatar
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    Rys Sol
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    Omega
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    Warrior Lv 90
    That's a bad idea. TBN Bloodspillers should be dps neutral, and they pretty much are right now. It's not perfect because of differences in things like fight length or number of TBNs, but the dps difference between never using TBN and using it a lot is almost non-existent.

    It shouldn't be a noticeable dps loss because that just means DRKs won't use it (like Inner Beast), but it also shouldn't be a dps gain because that's just going to make DRKs sacrifice mitigation for dps. You'd have to use TBN every 15s to avoid losing some casts, and you'd end up not having it for tankbusters because you already used it 5-10s ago. Holding on to TBN for even a few seconds would be bad because it has such a short cooldown. The way it works now is fine: you can use it for every single tankbuster and as often as want in between, and you'll still end the fight with the same dps as someone that barely used it.
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  5. #5
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    Gulvioir Muruc
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    Gilgamesh
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    40 is a bit high imo because as others noted it becomes something you have to do to maximize dps. However, raising it something like 20 potency and making it a small positive rather than a small negative and now the skill becomes palatable.
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    Blake Farrence
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    Ultros
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Yeah, as much as I love Bloodspiller's animation and dunking people, that attack needs to stay DPS neutral so TBN doesn't get spammed as previously mentioned.

    Now if they want to throw a self-heal on it like Souleater (only this one works out of Grit) I wouldn't be mad at that at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chrono_Rising View Post
    40 is a bit high imo because as others noted it becomes something you have to do to maximize dps. However, raising it something like 20 potency and making it a small positive rather than a small negative and now the skill becomes palatable.
    This on the other hand is fine, neutral but slightly positive is better than neutral but slightly negative.
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    Jace Ossura
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    Or just let it be a shield and remove the MP/Blood relation to it. That's as DPS neutral as you get.
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    Winter Sandman
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    Or when TBN breaks it grants you Dark Arts
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    Kashi Venka
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wintersandman View Post
    Or when TBN breaks it grants you Dark Arts
    this would indeed make it DPS neutral.
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    Brynhildr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    Or just let it be a shield and remove the MP/Blood relation to it. That's as DPS neutral as you get.
    Unfortunately the skill can't be 100% free, otherwise you would use it as often as possible as long as you had it for tank busters.
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