Thread: 4.25 and beyond

Originally Posted by Canopia

Those leather seats you've wallowed all over will never feel like brand new leather. You will never get that new car smell from an old car no matter what you do, and no matter how much tweaking you do to it.

This is pretty much false equivalence: you can absolutely get the feeling of brand new leather in an old car. It's called re-upholstering, which is exactly what the patches to this game are supposed to be doing. People pay subscription fees for MMOs with the explicit assumption that the continued stream of income will allow developers to produce new content. We're not paying to play the game--we're playing to grow the game. (If we were okay with paying just to play, there'd be no point to expansions after all...)

To use your car analogy, the situation is much more like this: Imagine you take your car to a detailer who tells you that, for a monthly fee, he will make improvements and additions to your car every three or so months. However, after a while, you start to notice that the improvements and additions are feeling... very familiar. You'd have your racing stripes repainted five times. Your rear spoiler has changed heights three times. The tint on your windows gets progressively darker. But huh, you're right: you've never gotten those reupholstered leather seats. You're still rocking the same rims you've had for five years. Your detailer is clearly stuck in a rut--or, despite your consistent payments--unable to shell out the cash needed to make those more meaningful changes.

Expecting new things from an MMO isn't unrealistic. No one is demanding that there be 15 brand new things to do in every patch. But we should probably get more than one "new" thing a year; otherwise, you're right: cars without upgrades are paid off by five years--so why should anyone keep paying for this one?

How difficult would it be for them, to add events like besieged, hamlet, assault, and campaigns? I'm assuming that would be too much Tanaka for Yoshi P to digest huh?

Kinda thinking about going back to FFXI for a while myself. I do end up wishing for more of the variety we had with XI in XIV these days. The treadmill is sooo played out today.

The next expansion will definitely decide this game's fate, and I fear they won't change much up at all.

Originally Posted by polyhedral

How difficult would it be for them, to add events like besieged, hamlet, assault, and campaigns? I'm assuming that would be too much Tanaka for Yoshi P to digest huh?

Kinda thinking about going back to FFXI for a while myself. I do end up wishing for more of the variety we had with XI in XIV these days. The treadmill is sooo played out today.

The next expansion will definitely decide this game's fate, and I fear they won't change much up at all.

ya....Tanaka is one of the best game director in Japan, Secret of Mana is my favorite ARPG,

Yoshi-P, well, I don't know, I don't play the new Dragon Quest games,
maybe he's good for the shareholders...
I think SE & most JP companies, are more focus on the mobile games now, easy & fast money

Think they need to increase budget a huge amount and create whole new story line for 5.0 that has nothing do with any of other story line. That way it whole new out look to the game. Like how ffxi had it where could travel back in time for totally new story line. Maybe let us go to world of darkness and help warriors of darkness out there. Or let us go back in time before Bahamut was released. Something new that doesn't just revolve around Garlean empire in it.

If Eureka flops they need to remake 14 from the ground up again. Give us some action combat that isn't holding one button like 15 is. Most of their funds seem to be going towards 15 anyway for some reason. That seemed to be more of a disappointment than Diadem 1-2 were.

Or, throw more than 1 boss at us at a time. IDK, call me crazy, but my memories of Kirin and Dynamis are some of my favorite gaming memories I have.

And let's not think I'm hating on this game too much. Just look at my forum join date. I've been playing since 1.0 beta, even though I took a break a month after HW launch when I started to realize the treadmill rehash. When I came back in 4.1, at least I had months of content to enjoy, but now, that tired feeling is coming on strong again.

I do hope Eureka is good and gives me something to expect more of in the future. I want to be hopeful, and I'd love to actually believe that SE listens to folks like myself, because I know I'm not alone in this feeling I'm fearing to be true.

Originally Posted by polyhedral

Or, throw more than 1 boss at us at a time. IDK, call me crazy, but my memories of Kirin and Dynamis are some of my favorite gaming memories I have.

And let's not think I'm hating on this game too much. Just look at my forum join date. I've been playing since 1.0 beta, even though I took a break a month after HW launch when I started to realize the treadmill rehash. When I came back in 4.1, at least I had months of content to enjoy, but now, that tired feeling is coming on strong again.

I do hope Eureka is good and gives me something to expect more of in the future. I want to be hopeful, and I'd love to actually believe that SE listens to folks like myself, because I know I'm not alone in this feeling I'm fearing to be true.

Well we do have a trial where we fight Ultros and Typhon in 1 battle...

Originally Posted by Joe777

Well we do have a trial where we fight Ultros and Typhon in 1 battle...

You're right about that, but it only brings up part of my point. That fight isn't very relevant today, when Kirin and Dynamis were for years in game.

Oh well. Different games I guess.. /sulk