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    Some CON Questions

    Hi all,

    CON is my main and only job but I realize I that I really don't have a good grasp on how it works. Was hoping some of you could answer some questions I have about the class. I know a lot of these may seem stupid or are things I should already know, but I figured "he who asks a question looks foolish for a minute...". Anyway, here they are:

    1) Is stoneskin modified by any attribute?
    2) Is repose modified by any attribute?
    3) When I'm filling a main healer role, what attributes would be best to stack and in what order?
    4) Can cures critical?
    5) What restores more HP, 2 cures or 1 cura?
    6) What restores more HP, sacred prism + cura or curaga?
    7) What is the soft attribute cap at level 50?

    I'll probably add a few more to the thread as they come to mind but that's about it for now.

    Thanks!

    Edit: I know this probably belongs in the CON forums, but they seem kind of dead...
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    Last edited by WinnipegJet; 01-25-2012 at 06:20 AM.

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    1) VIT
    2) MND
    3) Ionno, MND?
    4) I think so, but there's no text I've seen to denote it
    5) About the same for Cura and Cure. Curaga is weird, it depends on how much HP the people in area of effect need.
    6) You mean Sacred Prism. That and Cura, hands down.
    7) No clue.
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    Last edited by Answa; 01-25-2012 at 07:45 AM. Reason: I'd put PIE on 2. Don't be mean to Vexerus.

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    We have a class section, and every question you ask has been discussed, explained and tested, in that section, check it out and enjoy.
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    Last edited by Coglin; 01-25-2012 at 06:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    We have a class section, and a majority of your questions, if not all will be answered there, several of our questions have already been asked in threads there. I am honestly surprised you hadn't checked there already.
    Most of my questions weren't answered in the threads I looked at.
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    Last edited by WinnipegJet; 01-25-2012 at 06:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinnipegJet View Post
    Most of these weren't answered in the threads I looked at.
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    Account deactivated. Holding out for Guild Wars 2.

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    Here's what all the stats do:


    Strength
    Attack Power
    Damage dealt by puglist, gladiator, marauder, and lancer arms

    Vitality
    Damage taken
    Enhancement Magic Potency
    Maximum HP
    Damage dealt by marauder arms

    Dexterity
    Accuracy
    Block Rate
    Parry
    Damage dealt by archer arms

    Intelligence
    Attack Magic Potency
    Damage dealt by pugilist arms

    Mind
    Healing Magic Potency
    Magic Accuracy
    Damage dealt by gladiator, thaumaturge, and conjurer arms

    Piety
    Magic Evasion
    Enfeebling Magic Potency
    Maximum MP
    Damage dealt by archer, lancer, thaumaturge, and conjurer arms
    Stoneskin is enhancing magic, so I guess it's effected by your enhancing magic stat. But I don't know if it really does or not.

    Yes heals can crit, but it not displayed as a "critical heal" in the chat log, you'll just sometimes heal for more than usual, and it's effected by magical crit potency and magical crit rate.

    For hp/mp I think cura is probably better, although you get more enmity with cura.

    On 6.) I think you're talking about sacred prism ? If so yes I would do sacred prism+cura instead of curaga, as curaga gives you a lot of enmity and costs much more MP. You basically get the same effect from doing sacred prism+cura. Curaga heals about the same as cura but it's AoE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Answa View Post
    1) VIT
    2) MAGIC ACCURACY
    3) Ionno, MND?
    4) I think so, but there's no text I've seen to denote it
    5) About the same for Cura and Cure. Curaga is weird, it depends on how much HP the people in area of effect need.
    6) You mean Sacred Prism. That and Cura, hands down.
    7) No clue.
    fixed number 2
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    Hmmm thanks for the replies so far.

    Anyone know about #7?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zetsumei_Tsunarashi View Post
    On 6.) I think you're talking about sacred prism ? If so yes I would do sacred prism+cura instead of curaga, as curaga gives you a lot of enmity and costs much more MP. You basically get the same effect from doing sacred prism+cura. Curaga heals about the same as cura but it's AoE.
    Enmity from cure is not based on the type of cure you use. It is calculated at .75 points of enmity for each 1 hp cured, assuming 1 point of damage = 1 point of enmity. Thus, Sacred Prism + Cura will give much much more enmity than Curaga if you hit every party member.

    Edit: Curaga will never heal as much as prism+cura if you hit more than 3 party members. Curaga has like a cap of HP it can cure, that is distributed amongst those in range with the lowest hp first and caps at around 2000 hp. However, sacred prism will make your Cura hit for everyone in range for 1k+ hp.
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    Last edited by Vexerus; 01-25-2012 at 06:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vexerus View Post
    fixed number 2
    He asked for an attribute, not a stat. I associate attribute with MND, INT, PIE, STR, DEX, and VIT. Otherwise, I would've said MAcc. lol
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