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    Amelia_Pond_Behemoth's Avatar
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    Violet Baudelaire
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    I think I'm the only one who likes the glamour dresser.

    It's pretty much what I hoped would be implemented as an alternative to the old system. Though it's still not perfect. The plates are a great idea, but there really needs to be an option to glamour an individual piece. But for now there are workarounds. Eventually I'd like to see a plate that clears all glamours from your current gear. But for now we still have dispellers. Great start so far and I can't wait to see this system evolve.
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    I'm waiting until they let you tie plates to jobs. Until then it sounds like far too much hassle for what it can do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    I'm waiting until they let you tie plates to jobs. Until then it sounds like far too much hassle for what it can do.
    I haven’t messed with the dresser yet. You’re telling me if I have a plate to WHM and a plate for AST that when I switch jobs I also have to switch plates? With that, I will keep using the old glamour system because that sounds annoying AF.
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    yeah it feels like a lot of teeth gnashing over something dumb. I'm disappointed, but that's 'cause I was hoping for things that we ended up not getting. in fact that's the only reason people seem upset about it.

    honestly, considering that not only the original system is in place but also upgraded complaining about an additional feature you don't want to use feels incredibly stupid :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonfish View Post
    I haven’t messed with the dresser yet. You’re telling me if I have a plate to WHM and a plate for AST that when I switch jobs I also have to switch plates? With that, I will keep using the old glamour system because that sounds annoying AF.
    apparently there's a macro workaround for this, I forget what exactly it is but it's something like the gearset macro now takes 2 arguments, so the first number is the gearset and the second is the glamour plate (or something like that, there's a thread about it somewhere)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-s1 View Post
    honestly, considering that not only the original system is in place but also upgraded complaining about an additional feature you don't want to use feels incredibly stupid :/
    1. You can edit a post to get around the 1k chara limit.
    2. People are angry about it because it's development time that went into something that doesn't benefit as many people as it could've and doesn't live up to its potential. Compared to a lot of things we received in this patch, there's so much they could've - and should've - prioritized better. Instead we got this and iono DRK is still broken. That's a lot of why people are frustrated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    2. People are angry about it because it's development time that went into something that doesn't benefit as many people as it could've and doesn't live up to its potential. Compared to a lot of things we received in this patch, there's so much they could've - and should've - prioritized better. Instead we got this and iono DRK is still broken.
    That's pretty selfish.
    I'm not calling you personally selfish, but if people are mad because "you didn't work on the part I enjoy in this game" and think that people who do glamour stuff AREN'T a large piece of the player base? That's more on them than SE. People say "Glamour is endgame" as a joke, but for a lot of us it kinda is. A big part of it anyway. I rerun dungeons solo for it. I farm tokens and rep for it. Hell, I'll level crafting classes and gathering classes for it.
    all of this to make my character look how I want in the situations I put them in. Literally days of game time for that.

    You're not alone OP. I enjoy it and see the potential. Doing my best to see where it could improve and how.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonfish View Post
    I haven’t messed with the dresser yet. You’re telling me if I have a plate to WHM and a plate for AST that when I switch jobs I also have to switch plates? With that, I will keep using the old glamour system because that sounds annoying AF.
    You can macro your gearsets to your plates.
    All you have to do is /gearset change X Y
    X = gearset number
    Y = plate number
    That way you can quickly apply the plates to your gearsets as you change jobs.
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    Squintina Nightgard
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    I like it but I'm not a big glamour person.

    I think the issue was people's expectations. Despite that there was coverage about it several times, it was touted as a new system, so people expected it to be radically different, to be a layer on top of the old system and be able to do things the old system couldn't do (like go over class restrictions and whatnot).

    Instead it's just a way to apply the existing glamour system quickly on several pieces with less prisms needed (or none at all if using only armoire stuff).

    From that perspective it's normal that applying a plate removes glamour from equipment that already has the "old" one, because it's no different than if someone were to reapply a glamour the old-fashioned way on top of it.

    From that perspective it's normal that all existing restrictions still apply.

    There are a other criticisms that aren't from people expecting it to be a radically different new system, which I think are fairer criticisms of the system: the item limit (which is probably just a test limit), the plate limit (same), and the dyes lost (hopefully it was an oversight and they'll fix that).
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    Last edited by Squintina; 02-01-2018 at 04:49 PM.

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    Squintina Nightgard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonfish View Post
    I haven’t messed with the dresser yet. You’re telling me if I have a plate to WHM and a plate for AST that when I switch jobs I also have to switch plates? With that, I will keep using the old glamour system because that sounds annoying AF.
    It is not different from the old system at all in this regard.

    OLD SYSTEM:
    I glam stuff one by one on my white mage
    I glam stuff one by one on my AST
    Some gear was shared and unique, so I just accidentally broke my white mage look when I switched jobs.
    now I have to reapply my glamour anytime I switch from WHM to AST and back because I'm using shared unique gear.
    Because i"m using the old system that means having the equipment and lots of glamour prisms

    "New system"
    I apply a plate that has all my glam stuff white mage
    I apply a plate that has all my glam stuff for AST
    Some gear was shared and unique, so I just accidentally broke my white mage look when I switched jobs. (the plate itself is still fine)
    now I have to reapply my glamour anytime I switch from WHM to AST and back because I'm using shared unique gear.
    Because i'm using the plate system that means I don't need the equipment or glamour prisms, but I need to be in a city.

    So literally the only thing that changes is the last line about what it costs.

    Stop thinking of it as a different system. It's just the old system in bulk.

    Which is why you can also do this:

    I apply a plate with only my armor
    I use old system to glam my weapons

    or this
    I apply a plate
    I reglam individual items on top of it using old sytem
    I switch jobs and back and still have the mixed look because it's not like anything is actually tied to plate

    absolutely no different than reglamoring using the old system other than having multiple items done at once and no glamour prisms every time you reglamor.
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    Last edited by Squintina; 02-01-2018 at 05:00 PM.

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