Don't Get Rid Of The Songbirds!

[RiyahArp]

Keep the Songbirds, but what they need is a rival band to serve as foils/drama to make the quest interesting. The way the songbirds are structured doesn't really add any conflict or provide any real decent mechanics; they need someone to play off of to make them come alive some. Have them go against the Blackbirds or something, who try to cheat and sabotage them. This event sucked because it was japanese cliche x 2, idol singers and cute ghost girls. If you are going to do this, at least add conflict to spice it up.

[Zumi]

I'm honestly curious what makes you consider them "such good characters"?
I know I have made it quite clear by now that I dont think so, so I'd like to understand what other people like about them. Maybe my german client is wastly different from the english one and they're brillianlty written in other languages.

They all have basically no personalty, no real character development - maybe thats asking a bit much of seasonal characters, granted. But when you call them "good characters", I'd imagine you see something like that?
I just cant count a pretty face and a cute outfit as "good character"... and that seems to be all they're offering to me.

Well in the first year you got to talk to them ask them a bunch of questions about their backstory and upbringing which was nice.

[Uielyave]

Keep the Songbirds, but what they need is a rival band to serve as foils/drama to make the quest interesting. The way the songbirds are structured doesn't really add any conflict or provide any real decent mechanics; they need someone to play off of to make them come alive some. Have them go against the Blackbirds or something, who try to cheat and sabotage them. This event sucked because it was japanese cliche x 2, idol singers and cute ghost girls. If you are going to do this, at least add conflict to spice it up.

A rival Boyband would be hilarious. Otherwise i find that the songbird story is ..really stale.

[Vidu]

Well in the first year you got to talk to them ask them a bunch of questions about their backstory and upbringing which was nice.

I do remember that - we're really seem to have extremly different views of what makes a good character then.
Those "backstories" actually made me dislike them even more, because all of them were so stereotypical or boring or bland...
Tell me something about your family - and what you get to hear is "I had to help in the house when I was a child!"
Tell me something about your hobbies - "I like to eat, but I know I dont look the part!" - "I like to dance!"
And then, especially bad: Your biggest wish! "I want to become the moste famous singer in Eorzea!" - "I want to be an actress!" - "I want to be a famous dancer!"

Each time I had to talk to one of them during that year, they annoyed me more, because all those "stories" were so bland - probably intentionally, to make for inoffensive characters, but hardly good ones in my book.

But thanks for sharing your reason to like them! I'm just afraid I'll never be able to understand it xD

[Derio]

They need to spice up the storyline. The story for them is rather dull and boring and most people run it just because its new content.

[Ametrine]

I just find it incredible some people prefer the most generic idol caricatures possible to a heartrending short story about fulfilling a ghostly child's final wish so that she can finally find the peace she deserves, bookending it with giving her living family much needed closure.

I do like the rave emotes, though.

[Avatre]

I just find it incredible some people prefer the most generic idol caricatures possible to a heartrending short story about fulfilling a ghostly child's final wish so that she can finally find the peace she deserves, bookending it with giving her living family much needed closure.

I do like the rave emotes, though.

I think if they did it the other way around, a heartrending story, that the idols refuse to perform until it's resolved, followed by the lighthearted performance to close out the event, would be a good way of doing it too.

[Ametrine]

I think if they did it the other way around, a heartrending story, that the idols refuse to perform until it's resolved, followed by the lighthearted performance to close out the event, would be a good way of doing it too.

This is a great idea! Then the girls would've had genuine involvement and character development.

[Sekkei]

If it helps, the Gold Saucer usually spawns them somewhere in the Saucer even outside of the designated event timeframe. It even spawns Tataru from time to time. Unless SE removes them from there as well, they won't really be gone. Though you can't interact with them. They're basically token background npcs like 98% of the zone inhabitants.

[Naria]

The also showed up in the starting cities during the last Starlight festival although you couldn't interact with them, so the probably will still be in the background even if the story is moving on.