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    MisterSpamtastic's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    You lot keep using the word "filler." In the words of a Spaniard, I don't think it means what you think it means. The majority of those quests have relevance to the story in some way. Just how different do you expect "Heavensward content" to be from the content leading up to it? It's all the same. Talk and walk, talk and walk, dungeon. Talk and walk, talk and walk, trial. Repeat.
    thank you for this! it bugs me that people call lady iceheart filler, or learning how to truly kill an ascian, or meeting yugiri and the doman refugees that pretty much set the stage for stormblood. yeah. filler. ok. go ahead and keep skipping cutscenes. yes, there is a lot of walking around and talking, but broken down to the most basic levels that's pretty much the entire game.
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    Momomi Momi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    You lot keep using the word "filler." In the words of a Spaniard, I don't think it means what you think it means. The majority of those quests have relevance to the story in some way. Just how different do you expect "Heavensward content" to be from the content leading up to it? It's all the same. Talk and walk, talk and walk, dungeon. Talk and walk, talk and walk, trial. Repeat.
    Having done the road to HW multiple times, the post-HW content is extremely different to the previous 100 quests. It has far less "go sniff the chocobo" in it.

    Most of it is filler. You can tell a story without it being needlessly tedious content to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    Having done the road to HW multiple times, the post-HW content is extremely different to the previous 100 quests. It has far less "go sniff the chocobo" in it.

    Most of it is filler. You can tell a story without it being needlessly tedious content to do.
    Comparing 2.x and 3.x is like night and day. Even now in 4.0 we still do plenty of menial tasks, but they aren't back to back. imo thats what kills the pace of 2.x: Sniff the chocobo/pick some flowers/fix my earrings/deliver some food/do my chores/carry this box all happen one after the other. The 100 quests felt like 1000. I wanted to strangle Alphinaud.
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokke View Post
    Comparing 2.x and 3.x is like night and day. Even now in 4.0 we still do plenty of menial tasks, but they aren't back to back. imo thats what kills the pace of 2.x: Sniff the chocobo/pick some flowers/fix my earrings/deliver some food/do my chores/carry this box all happen one after the other. The 100 quests felt like 1000. I wanted to strangle Alphinaud.
    I did forget about that.... quality level of quest, but I’ll still gladly take “interact with random object #523” over some of the more annoying objective types like “use Say to speak random phrases to everyone within hearing range!” which is possibly getting used more in later parts of the game. I think I only encountered those in some of the beast tribe quests in ARR.
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    Chloe Lehideux
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    Dont read the story just force it trough HW and stoormblood, because its banal and not interesting to read all of it.
    Maybe save cutscenes and watch them, you could entirely ignore the rest.
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    King Canadane
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    In all honesty, there's very few filler quests in the MSQ after level 50.
    Yes there's some here and there to go slay some ladybugs, but most of it is just a slowly developing story that is actually significant to the overall story of the game.
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    Rin Black
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    Am I the only one who doesn't consider being level 60 before even accessing Heavensward content to be a Bad thing? I mean, you'll be able to breeze through it. Stormblood stuff too. Just enjoy the story.
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    Hashmael Lightswain
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    Nah. Through ARR, Leviathan gets brought up all over Vylbrand, Ramuh gets brought up when dealing with the Sylphs, they were definitely something that was always going to come up in some way or another.

    It's all (mostly) story. Calling any of it a waste of time just seems hypocritical of the rest of the story for doing the same things.
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    If you're feeling like your character is way overleveled at the start of Heavensward, you may want to pick up a second class to use. Astrologian/Machinist/Dark Knight (in Ishgard) start at Lv30 and Red Mage/Samurai (in Ul'dah) start at Lv50, so you don't even have to catch up to story level.

    And I'm in the "post-ARR quests are not filler" group. Once I got over the confusion of thinking Heavensward would start immediately after I'd completed ARR, it's just another chapter in the story. Some interesting things happen or get set up for later, and the end of it leading into Heavensward was one of the highlights of the story so far.
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    They are staying true to the philosophy that story should be a major focus in any ff games even the mmos so if you unless you buy a skip potion there is really nothing much you can do.
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