Got kicked Right before boss.

[SenorPatty]

Or they were hoping that he would actually take their advice and improve? Instead of kicking them right away - and probably kicked them once they figured it was useless, given that, according to the other sides version of events includes a line like "because it does good damage" when told not to use Shield Loop as much.

I want to reply with this

The off putting part is when they kicked him, not that they did.

What's not being addressed its the time spent in that dgn. Obviously it doesn't make sense to kick someone right at the start.

But there is a MIDDLE to the run. Yes, they spent time trying to teach the tank how to tank but it had to click at some point that it wasn't going to sink in. From what we gathered, the tank was doing his shield lob from start to near finish and was making the run longer than it was supposed to.

This one's to Kaldea: are you telling me that it only dawned upon you to kick him right before the last boss? This is not a short dgn by any means and if that guy made things longer, that means there was AMPLE time to kick him.

That's what I don't get. Again, I'm not against the deicision to kick him nor am I disagreeing with not kicking at the start. It's just that, to illustrate what I mean, if you're ten minutes in and you just finished the second boss and you know that reaching the last one is gonna take another 5-10, why not kick him right at the second boss? It doesn't have to be specifically at that point but seems to me like a good point to kick someone who plays like that tank is at least in the middle of a run.

Please explain that.

[Vidu]

i would of simply left then, also it doesn't matter anymore i found another group and finished it perfectly just fine.

The way you are apparently playing, with Shield Loop as your favorite skill isnt "finishing dungeons perfectly just fine".
It would have been another group stuck with a tank apparently unable to tank - you seem to have at least understood that, which is good!

But the attitude of "some other group wouldnt have minded carry me through the dungeon" is rude itself, sorry.

[Penthea]

The off putting part is when they kicked him, not that they did.

Yea the timing wasn't great but it wouldn't have happened if the tank bothered to read what his other abilities did or listened to what the party said so....yea

[xMysticx]

The way you are apparently playing, with Shield Loop as your favorite skill isnt "finishing dungeons perfectly just fine".
It would have been another group stuck with a tank apparently unable to tank - you seem to have at least understood that, which is good!

But the attitude of "some other group wouldnt have minded carry me through the dungeon" is rude itself, sorry.

I Never said i was being carried infact i took of most the damage, i don't see why you keep replying to this thread when your going continuously lie about something that's not true, you weren't there when it happened to begin with.

[ToasterMan]

If I was the OP I'd keep you on that blacklist. If you had a problem with him then you should have kicked him then and there, not waited until the last boss.

[xMysticx]

If I was the OP I'd keep you on that blacklist. If you had a problem with him then you should have kicked him then and there, not waited until the last boss.

i've already put kaldea on that blacklist, i have no desire to have any contact with such a person.

[AxlStream]

Oh boy... You're lucky this is FFXIV cuz anywhere else, this would of been an open mic night roasting you for playing like this AFTER FIFTY LEVELS. Now as a fellow tank, I'm gonna be real with you. That kind of play is not acceptable. Like others have said, shield lob once then spam flash. Shield lob is okay to use if a mob got away from the pack and it slapping another party member around. You usually wanna go Shield Lob then spam flash 2 or 3 times and use Circle of Scorn. Spamming Total Eclipse ain't bad if you're in Shield Oath either.

After you got their attention, feel free to just use Rage of Halone combo until you get Goring Blade and Royal Authority. Tanking is a tough job and I commend you picking it up but for the sake of everyone who will party with you in the future, read the tooltips of your skills man!

[Vidu]

I Never said i was being carried infact i took of most the damage, i don't see why you keep replying to this thread when your going continuously lie about something that's not true, you weren't there when it happened to begin with.

"Most of the damage"? Except for raid-wide AoEs and AoEs people are supposed to move out off, you're supposed to take all the damage.
That is your role as a tank: Draw the attention of all mobs onto you, take all the damage they're dealing and make sure your DPS and healer can focus on their buisness without being disturbed by mobs.

Edit: To add to this: Melee-DPs like Dragoon, Ninja, Samurai and Monk have certain skills that need to be performed from a certain direction - that can only work if the mob doesnt move, aka: if a tank keeps it still. Attacks from mobs can interrupt casts - which is very bad for casters and healers. Ranged DPS is kinda squishy, so they dont want to deal with mobs either. Thats why its so important that a tank picks everything up, keeps it still and aggro on him. (And yes, you can finish dungeons without a tank, healer or dps missing - but that always means that the rest of the party steps up. And if every role is present, why should we find workarounds instead of expecting everyone to actually perform their given role?)

[Rosentretter]

Oh boy... You're lucky this is FFXIV cuz anywhere else, this would of been an open mic night roasting you for playing like this AFTER FIFTY LEVELS.

+1 to this. At lvl 51, having done all the job quests up until that lvl, any new tank should have knowledge of what to do. Dunno if someone asked, but OP, did you do the Hall of the Novice? There you learn basics of tanking, and it's really useful. But tbh if I see you or some tank like you doing that in my party, and not listening to advice, I gladly vote kick.

[Vidu]

Listen, I know it sucks being told that you're not good at something - specially if that something is something you're doing for fun in your freetime, like a videogame. We all like to believe that we're actually good at the things we're doing here - fact is though that pretty much everyone has room to improve upon themself - some on a fundamental level, some with fine-tuning things. So we can all need advice from time to time - and if you ask me, how we take that advice says a lot about the type of person and player we are. Dismissing advice and blacklisting people offering it to you? Yeah, no... granted, I dont know what happend, but I have no reason to believe your story more than the others side here and quite frankly: Kaldea seemes trustworthy and believable enough to not doubt their story of offering geninue help, even if the other two people in that run might have been jerks - something thats in-excusable.

But what also is in-excuasable is that your approach seems to be "I wish they'd kicked me sooner, to waste less of my time, so I could have found another group" - ignoring the fact that as far as I can tell (you can obviously provide your version and confirm that you did have aggro on all mobs and were indeed using flash) you were actually the one who wasted everyones time by not understanding the fundamentals of your job.
Which is okay! Not great anymore at level 50, but okay. If you're willing to take advice!
Because thats the nice thing here: Even if we're not perfect yet, we can improve. And work on that. Which is what we should do - instead of dismissing advice because we already believe we're god-like. We're not. No one of us is.

Its okay to learn, but honestly: At level 51 one should realisticly expect you to have graps the basic of the job by now - which is pretty simply: Gather all the mobs and keep them with you. Thats not being a pro. Thats being a tank.
Tank-jobs can be a bit more demanding than DPS and have some more weight to carry on their shoulders, so if you dont want that, I'd advice you to roll a DPS... or improve upon your tanking.

As I said - I have no reason to disbelief Kaldea and that means: Aggro was probably all over the place. And sorry, but I cant sugar coat this: That makes you a not-very-good tank. Which isnt horrible, as long as you improve upon it and take the advice presented here to heart. I know it sucks being called "bad" - but honestly: To me this looks as if its mainly up to you to change this by becoming a good tank! You got a lot of advice here, that will hopefully help you with that - so I hope you'll be able to enjoy further dungeon-runs with less incidents and the game in general!