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  1. #181
    Player illgot's Avatar
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    Tanuki Crash
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    Midgardsormr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mavrias View Post
    Judging by the fact you have to complete base 2.0 storyline and all the dungeons that entails to even access Tam Tara Deepcroft Hard, yes, I would expect a player in this situation to know the basics of their role.
    You assume the OP has basic MMO trifecta game experience. FFXIV is not intuitive for players who has never played MMOs before and even I had issues with some of the UI concepts due to how inconsistent every aspect of this game was, and I've been playing MMOs since the 90s.
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  2. #182
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    Mavrias's Avatar
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    Jyn Willowsong
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    Faerie
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by illgot View Post
    You assume the OP has basic MMO trifecta game experience. FFXIV is not intuitive for players who has never played MMOs before and even I had issues with some of the UI concepts due to how inconsistent every aspect of this game was, and I've been playing MMOs since the 90s.
    No, I don't actually. I had zero MMO experience before starting FFXIV. You are greatly overestimating how difficult concepts like "look at what the ability you just got does" or "read the helpful little pop ups" or even "read whats being said to you in party chat" actually are. And worse come to worse, google is a thing.
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  3. #183
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    Jijifli Kokofli
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 55
    Quote Originally Posted by illgot View Post
    You assume the OP has basic MMO trifecta game experience. FFXIV is not intuitive for players who has never played MMOs before and even I had issues with some of the UI concepts due to how inconsistent every aspect of this game was, and I've been playing MMOs since the 90s.
    Is reading your skills when you get them that difficult?

    You'd think if someone had 0 mmo experience, then all the shiny new things would make them wanna explore and learn. Do you open a single player game and not read a thing on what your stuff does and just spam X until you win?

    I mean, you shouldn't. It doesn't get you much of anywhere unless you're on super ez difficulty. Why is an mmo different in that? Why wouldn't you want to know what your super cool flashy attack does?
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  4. #184
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    Iscah's Avatar
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jijifli View Post
    Cropping it so it's not another wall of text, but about the sprout thing. I believe it's both 168 hours of playtime AND completion of the HW story, not or.
    That does seem to be the case. I’m sure I was well over the 168 hour mark, and still only lost new adventurer status immediately after the last post-Heavensward quest.
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  5. #185
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    Jijifli Kokofli
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I’m sure I was well over the 168 hour mark, and still only lost new adventurer status immediately after the last post-Heavensward quest.
    That's why I said and, not or. You gotta meet both requirements.
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  6. #186
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    I meant that to confirm what you said, not correct it.
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  7. #187
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    Lulumia Lumia
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    Balmung
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Jijifli View Post
    I once filled into a Snowcloak or however it's spelled, where the tank only used Butcher Block, never the combo, and the BLM refused to use anything that wasn't Blizzard. The WHM's heals were also quite delayed.

    And yet there was me, on monk, using every bloody cooldown I got, stuck in earth instead of fire, potions, food, performing the fight perfectly so that the only thing Fenrir hurt me with were his auto's, and yet... it was a very close call after multiple pulls.

    That's likely what happened here. You don't NEED a tank for most dungeons in this game. They carried him through. Or is my own case "not that bad" either since I could almost solo the last boss on Monk?
    I've completed both current expert roulette dungeons with only a RDM and a Tank.

    Anything short of 8-man content is designed to be very easy and accessible.
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  8. #188
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    StragoMagus's Avatar
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    Strago Magus
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    Louisoix
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by KaldeaSahaline View Post
    and yes I reported both the DRG and SCH, because the DRG was not polite, and the SCH had some really offensive macros about how drinking bleach was better than playing with this tank.
    I hope this wasn’t done during the early or midway dungeon... best way to get someone to stop and listen eagerly.
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  9. #189
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    Y'dyalani Rhus
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    Louisoix
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Regarding sprout status. Can't be story or hours. I Had a sprout in hells lid yesterday. I can only assume that they story skipped and had not yet met the hourly requirements. for me I'm sure I done well over 168 hours on arr alone but didn't lose the sprout until hw ended
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  10. #190
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    Chloe Lehideux
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    Zodiark
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    Samurai Lv 74
    Quote Originally Posted by KaldeaSahaline View Post
    You are making a staggering number of assumptions, NONE of which are actually true.

    We waited for the tank to pull. Because his pulling method was simply pushing Shield Lob over and over until out of TP on a singular mob, any pulls > 1 mob aggro was on everyone else. We did not pull for the tank, nor were ANY of us dying due to pulling threat.

    You owe me a buck. Post your discord info so I can PM you my paypal info. Thanks for the easy money.
    Well if thats true and he was not holding aggro i am then so sorry for you and other two guys for that run. xD

    I would have kicked him at the start if i would see something like this, i would thought it was a bot running dungeon. I have meet 1 healer that was only casting cure I spell all the time and didnt communicate with anyone despite him being a PC player, we barely made it at last boss i still think it was a bot healer.

    Quote Originally Posted by illgot View Post
    You assume the OP has basic MMO trifecta game experience. FFXIV is not intuitive for players who has never played MMOs before and even I had issues with some of the UI concepts due to how inconsistent every aspect of this game was, and I've been playing MMOs since the 90s.
    Idk about the PC client, but on console if you lvl up your character you get your skills at the bar and you dont need to fill them it.
    Well it took me few minutes to realize there is something like "combo", the tips are popping all the time about the abilities you could use and stuff like that.
    You just have to use them everytime you get a new ability to use.
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    Last edited by Nedkel; 03-07-2018 at 11:43 PM.

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