Dark Knight under review: Feedback to the Developers and Community Team

[347SPECTRE]

From the Discord Live Translation:

Yoshida is aware of all the suggestions people do to reform drk but he says he can't do them because it'd be a redesign, need like 6 months to do it

Patch 4.2 released at the end of January, 4.3 is supposed to come out towards the end of May. That's 5 months they could have used. 4.25 released in mid March, about a month and a half after initial 4.2 release, I would assume the same would be for 4.35, so early/mid July. That's 6 months. Now not everyone wants a full complete rework of DRK, just changes to a few core skills, if they even just delayed the changes to 4.35, that's 6 months right there.

[Fourbestintoner]

If they aren't willing to give drk more mitigation or utility it should do more damage than war, but it will never happen because war would cry and unlike drk they actually listen to them.

[Exiled_Tonberry]

If they aren't willing to give drk more mitigation or utility it should do more damage than war, but it will never happen because war would cry and unlike drk they actually listen to them.

This. Warrior has more utility, both raid wide and personal, than DRK.
It should be obvious that DRK deal more damaga than WAR, but war is their baby. They "reworked" the job like patch into SB, but DRK needs until 5.0? The hell?

[Bourne_Endeavor]

From the Discord Live Translation:


Patch 4.2 released at the end of January, 4.3 is supposed to come out towards the end of May. That's 5 months they could have used. 4.25 released in mid March, about a month and a half after initial 4.2 release, I would assume the same would be for 4.35, so early/mid July. That's 6 months. Now not everyone wants a full complete rework of DRK, just changes to a few core skills, if they even just delayed the changes to 4.35, that's 6 months right there.

Their development philosophy is abysmal, primarily because they refuse to make proactive changes. Instead of focusing on feedback from the get go, they seem to have stubbornly kept to their design until it was clear the community flat out rejected it in the same vein they did Heavensward Paladin. The fact it may take an additional six months to fix a job that has struggled for almost a year now is... absurd.

[Otorinth]

That's not a niche though, that's the opposite of a niche. That middle of the road idea is going to help nothing; people will still take PLD/WAR because both excel in their areas whereas DRK will only ever be middling in them.

This. Warrior has more utility, both raid wide and personal, than DRK.
It should be obvious that DRK deal more damaga than WAR, but war is their baby. They "reworked" the job like patch into SB, but DRK needs until 5.0? The hell?

I don't think Warrior should have a party/raid shield in general. It goes against it's class-fantasy in my eyes. I'd be fine with T. Swift it was a personal shield/damage reduction only. SCH getting buffed again, WAR (to me) is the best of the three tanks. Feeling like HW.

[Dualgunner]

[whiskeybravo]

Patch 4.2 released at the end of January, 4.3 is supposed to come out towards the end of May. That's 5 months they could have used. 4.25 released in mid March, about a month and a half after initial 4.2 release, I would assume the same would be for 4.35, so early/mid July. That's 6 months. Now not everyone wants a full complete rework of DRK, just changes to a few core skills, if they even just delayed the changes to 4.35, that's 6 months right there.

Not surprising tbh. Another thought that crossed my mind, I can't be the only to think of it. But back previously when he said that reducing Shadow Wall's cooldown wouldn't help because the content is designed around it..

What he said without saying is that content is designed around Warrior using their exclusive invulnerability, Holmgang, every time DRK would only be able to Shadow Wall.

Hmm... Invuln or 30%..

Invuln or 30%..

SE logic

So of course they haven't had any time to re-work DRK (aka fix their eff ups) in the last 11 months

[Mycow8me]

8 changes to drk coming and plunge change confirmed. I didnt see anything specific though other than plunge comments.

[Izsha]

8 changes to drk coming and plunge change confirmed. I didnt see anything specific though other than plunge comments.

Can you elaborate or link job change details? I couldn't make the LL.

[Mycow8me]

Yoshi did what he normally does and remained very vague and avoiding of it. Have to wait till patch release to see changes. He only commented on plunge and mentioned 8 changes.