House Timer RNG

[Ametrine]

I doubt SE would do that for FC's since players are already trying to bypass the timers by putting dummy FCs to transfer housing ownership that way.

Make FC, buy house, go to reddit to sell house, buyer joins FC and buys house, seller leaves FC, house now belongs to buyer in a solo player FC.

It's roundabout as hell, but it was happening.

[Shouko]

I doubt SE would do that for FC's since players are already trying to bypass the timers by putting dummy FCs to transfer housing ownership that way.

Make FC, buy house, go to reddit to sell house, buyer joins FC and buys house, seller leaves FC, house now belongs to buyer in a solo player FC.

It's roundabout as hell, but it was happening.

Requires 4 people and rank 6 to purchase a plot now, 1 person FC purchases aren't possible, so technically you would have to have 3 people doing this and getting said FC to rank 6, so while not impossible to do as you say it would be a lot more time consuming and take a hell of a lot more time.

[Hasrat]

Requires 4 people and rank 6 to purchase a plot now, 1 person FC purchases aren't possible, so technically you would have to have 3 people doing this and getting said FC to rank 6, so while not impossible to do as you say it would be a lot more time consuming and take a hell of a lot more time.

Game doesn't check for "people," only "members." Get someone to help get alt characters into your FC, and you've effectively got a 1 person FC. It's no harder now than it ever was to achieve FC housing.

[Shouko]

Game doesn't check for "people," only "members." Get someone to help get alt characters into your FC, and you've effectively got a 1 person FC. It's no harder now than it ever was to achieve FC housing.

Hmm I guess I read it wrong.

[Claviusnex]

Requires 4 people and rank 6 to purchase a plot now, 1 person FC purchases aren't possible, so technically you would have to have 3 people doing this and getting said FC to rank 6, so while not impossible to do as you say it would be a lot more time consuming and take a hell of a lot more time.

Once an FC house is bought you only need one FC member to keep it and that member can be any level. One thing that appears to be happening is the flippers buy an FC house using a main and alts. They then invite the player purchasing he house to the FC and then drop out. If nobody buys the FC right away they are also known to transfer it to a lvl 1 character who would do the invite and transfer later when it sells.

The only way to stop flipping is to create an unlimited supply of houses. This would undercut the demand that flippers exploit.

[Divinemights]

The only way to stop flipping is to create an unlimited supply of houses. This would undercut the demand that flippers exploit.

This FC trick is probably only work once and that is it. It will not be able to continuously flipping as the new owner is unlikely to go through same painful process.
Also, this is likely only to be an issue for server like Balmung (Levithan is pretty big too but i dont see any fake FC owned houses) and because people want hoarding there.

[Claviusnex]

This FC trick is probably only work once and that is it. It will not be able to continuously flipping as the new owner is unlikely to go through same painful process.
Also, this is likely only to be an issue for server like Balmung (Levithan is pretty big too but i dont see any fake FC owned houses) and because people want hoarding there.

House flipping is not a serial event on a single house. House flipping is gil sellers buying as many as they can and selling them to any players who can't win the race to buy an open property. The method I detailed will work over and over as once a character is dropped from an FC it can buy another house. So buy house, transfer to a lvl 1 placeholder character, drop high level members from FC and repeat. As I said the only way to stop flippers or any RMT for that matter is to reduce demand. In housing SE developing a system where they can provide unlimited housing would eliminate the manufactured demand of the current limited housing system.

[Madbunny]

As I said the only way to stop flippers or any RMT for that matter is to reduce demand.

Not true. The real solution is to place permanent ban for both parties involved in house selling, and if any side of the deal have involved more than one person than ban everyone. Nothing strange to see entire guilds or group of people get permanently banned. The point is that the sellers will maybe try to risk but i'm sure the "normal" players will think more than once if is worth to lose several years old account for one trade. Btw when i said permanent ban i mean it, no "last warning" and no revoking the decision - if you participate in house selling in any way you will be banned... forever.

[Divinemights]

In housing SE developing a system where they can provide unlimited housing would eliminate the manufactured demand of the current limited housing system.

There is no point, like I said, this trick is one time only under the new regulation.
Those who bought the plot unlikely will try to resell it to another player.
This is also a first world problem that only happens on monster size server like Balmung.
There are people who quit the game and banned because of their own mistake.
THe plots will free up eventually.

[Naheed]

Yesterday I spent more than 10 hours clicking non stop to purchase a plot. Of course i didn't get it. Today, i spent another 7 hours of non stop clicking to purchase another plot. Suddenly after 7 hours the player who bought the plot the day before appears and just bought the damn plot. We were wondering us, but after looking at the other plot we were able to see that the plot from the day before was free to buy again... So i were looking for other plots. I went to another section, waited 5 minutes and the same player appears there... just what the hell.

We are trying to get a damn plot since some days but there's no way to do that. Even with wasting many hours.