Crafting the Ala Mhigan Set

[Caimie_Tsukino]

I have yet to find a rotation for Ala Mhigan that doesn't use the combination of Maker's Mark, Flawless Synthesis, Manipulation II and Comfort Zone like those have used above. However once you get one piece crafted (I usually start with the chest) I would say the hardest part is over Even with all Ala Mhigan crafted gear and tools I still use Maker's Mark/Flawless Synthesis to create new Ala Mhigan stuff...tho I do wonder if there is an alternative now I have around 1500/1500/465 stats. IMO I still consider Ala Mhigan gear the most difficult to craft even over the new 3 star stuff.

Tayler has a thread with some very nice macros for the special 2 star recipes. Below is a modified version of mine:

These things are fully macro-able without Maker's Mark. But you just don't get very much quality out of the macros.
You need to use two HQ mats, and it'll bring the HQ rate to >90%.

[o0DVS0o]

Oh thanks Caimie, I can certainly give that a try. Personally I wouldn't actually macro anything 2 or 3 star, but would use the rotations, that and I always have at least 50% HQ materials so that shouldn't be a problem. Just good to have an alternative to the many steps of using Maker's Mark.

[RopeDrink]

Hey folks, I kinda skipped out since my last post. Since then I've gotten the Ala Mhigan set, though my CP is still sitting at 450 (no buffs), so I'm hoping to figure out some macros for the higher recipes. I wager the one that Liam mentioned is close to what I need (don't have the CP for streamlined stuff). Any attempt to look for macros still involves "YOU NEED 475-500+ CP BASE" which I've given up trying to reach as I'm not swimming in gil or red scrips to replace my melds (even though most of them are overmelded to CP cap).

Thus far (as a specialist) I'm at:
CFT 1505 - CON 1450 - CP 450

Any suggestions/recommendations? Preferably without HQ Temp or CP-Tea (I have NQ Temp from Kugane and HQ/NQ non-CP tea).

[Caimie_Tsukino]

Hey folks, I kinda skipped out since my last post. Since then I've gotten the Ala Mhigan set, though my CP is still sitting at 450 (no buffs), so I'm hoping to figure out some macros for the higher recipes. I wager the one that Liam mentioned is close to what I need (don't have the CP for streamlined stuff). Any attempt to look for macros still involves "YOU NEED 475-500+ CP BASE" which I've given up trying to reach as I'm not swimming in gil or red scrips to replace my melds (even though most of them are overmelded to CP cap).

Thus far (as a specialist) I'm at:
CFT 1505 - CON 1450 - CP 450

Any suggestions/recommendations? Preferably without HQ Temp or CP-Tea (I have NQ Temp from Kugane and HQ/NQ non-CP tea).

It you're talking about 3 star recipes, Katlyna's thread is your savior, as they require very minimal stats despite the RNG:
Stormblood 3* Crafting Macros for the Lazy Crafter

Any attempt to look for macros still involves "YOU NEED 475-500+ CP BASE" which I've given up trying to reach as I'm not swimming in gil or red scrips to replace my melds (even though most of them are overmelded to CP cap).

500 base CP seems rather unreasonably high... is that even possible? I have 470-ish base CP.

[RopeDrink]

Not so much 3-Star stuff, primarily just for ease of 2-Star bits and pieces. Problem with above example is it sticks to the 473 CP base concept, so I'd end up having to butcher it (and have no idea how much would be lost/gained by the CON/CFT differences). In short, any CP efficient examples rather than ones that assume you have 473 CP - I don't have that, nor the experience (or spare materials) to just 'wing it'.

Example, I'd be throwing together things such as Silvergrace / Rhea Cloth (easy), Mhig-Fiber, maybe even the Mhigan Gatherer Set if the urge takes me, but nothing too drastic.

[Caimie_Tsukino]

Not so much 3-Star stuff, primarily just for ease of 2-Star bits and pieces. Problem with above example is it sticks to the 473 CP base concept, so I'd end up having to butcher it (and have no idea how much would be lost/gained by the CON/CFT differences). In short, any CP efficient examples rather than ones that assume you have 473 CP - I don't have that, nor the experience (or spare materials) to just 'wing it'.

Example, I'd be throwing together things such as Silvergrace / Rhea Cloth (easy), Mhig-Fiber, maybe even the Mhigan Gatherer Set if the urge takes me, but nothing too drastic.

If you're talking about the normal 2 star (3543 Difficulty, 15837 Quality, 70 Durab), they were long resolved. You should have no problem macroing them.
Katlyna:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...rafting-Macros
Evian:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ial-for-100-HQ.)
Taylor1480:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ls)-Specialist

If you're talking about the special 2 star (6377 Difficulty, 28506 Quality, 70 Durab), a.k.a. ala mhigan crafting gear i320 / snailfish oil / ala mhigan tools i325, these are actually harder than 3 star stuff.
That's why even with the existing macros of utilizing >470 CP, one still needs some HQ mats to safely HQ them. You can try to conserve CP by removing Innovation, or removing 1 Prudent Touch from the macro. It will reduce the power of the macro, but it will still work. Otherwise, I recommend you just manual craft these items with Maker's Mark. Then you have plenty of power to do it from zero HQ mats. After all, these are mostly final product. It's safer to do it manually. If this is Snailfish Oil, then you dont need it HQ anyway for the final product to go HQ.

[Liam_Harper]

Thus far (as a specialist) I'm at:
CFT 1505 - CON 1450 - CP 450

Any suggestions/recommendations? Preferably without HQ Temp or CP-Tea (I have NQ Temp from Kugane and HQ/NQ non-CP tea).

I'd recommend aiming for another 12 base CP if possible. Your other stats are fine, you could even sacrifice a bit of control if necessary, I only have 1400 myself. That would give you access to reliable macro's for pretty much any endgame craft.

I'd also recommend HQ Temp/CP Tea for the more difficult crafts like Ala Mhigan gear. The materials aren't too bad to gather and it's very much worthwhile in the long run.

500 base CP seems rather unreasonably high... is that even possible? I have 470-ish base CP.

If I remember right, 476 base is the max possible.

[Wintersandman]

Ugh, I just completed my 290 set last night and melded what materia I had. I am at 427 CP, and shy of the 1320,1220 to craft Ala Mhigan. I have some warriors stew I was going to use but then I wouldn't get the extra CP as all the macros recommend. I was thinking I am going to force myself to HQ most if not all of the base ingredients to craft the Ala Mhigan body parts until I can get high enough. I can safely HQ Zelkova logs and the 290 set without any HQ mats. So I am hoping if I can HQ the base ingredients for Ala Mhigan I can get enough quality to HQ the first couple of pieces.

This is my hope at least.

[Cleanse]

Always focus on maxing your CP. CP is king and allows you to have freedom to fix an unlucky set of actions.

[o0DVS0o]

If you can HQ the base materials like Ala Mhigan Fibre then you are nearly there for HQ on the clothing since it has the same requirements. Check your gathering stats and see if you meet the requirements to gather HQ Spring Water and Azim Cotton. I remember having to overmeld as much perception into my 290 gathering gear as possible along with using food at first. The method posted on the forums that uses Markers Mark, Flawless Synthesis, Manipulation II and Comfort Zone doesn't require max CP so that would be your best method I think. In fact I still use it even with full Ala Mhigan gear but then I don't have max 476 CP (I have 467) that most of the rotations use either.