Im Done

[Wintersandman]

Sorry I rather they spend their time more on other means like housing, story line ect, than wast time on something that the game does not focus on. .

Wait... the game focuses on housing just as much as PvP as it is optional side content. You're contradicting yourself. What you truly mean to say is you would rather SE focus on content that you find relevant.

Comes to chime in completely off topic just be thankful remarks.

I am not complaining about not getting updates. Yes I would like to see more but it isn't an unreasonable request. There are multiple complaints and you just replied with a counterargument that is completely off topic.

The neutering of the skillset which in my opinion is a bigger mess and they already figured out a way to balance the PvE portion in 2.0 which is why some abilities only had effects in PvP and gear was ilvl synced to entry level gear. Now they have a bigger mess that they are ignoring which is the whole point of this thread. The OP discussed the neutering of the skillset which wasn't asked for by the PvP community. People said it was tough to learn and that is SE's fault. It took players to state how much an Interceptor Drone is worth and ticks per base occupied. SE hasn't published any information on any of their modes on the point system. How much is a kill worth, how much is a fever worth? So the learning curve wasn't necessarily the skillset but how to even play the maps. I know when I first PvP'ed I just showed up and zerged with the masses. Which this SE still hasn't fixed as people say PvP is still too confusing with the simplified skillset.

Botting in frontlines which SE has done nothing to address. And continues to ignore the posts about players and the botting topic. It is rampant and as a pvp'er if you are on the opposing team it is quit funny. If you are on the team with bots you feel your efforts are wasted.

Win-trading in the feast which has been a topic for how many months/years now.... Oh wait since the release of Feast win-trading has been present. SE still doesn't do anything about this. If we want to discuss Win-trading we can also look at SE's stance on Triple Triad and the win-trading that occurs there. From the outside it looks like SE doesn't care if it's playerbase cheats since they haven't addressed win-trading in any elements of their own game.

Quick chat - SE continues to promote quick chat even at the request of having normal chat brought back by the playerbase. No one is really content with it and it hasn't really removed the toxicity. Now it's just Good Game, Good Game, Good Game.

Which leads us to:
SE's Lack of Communication with the NA PVP COMMUNITY - We get generic responses and there are entire threads where the community has tried to be positive and provide feedback with changes they would like.

[Zojha]

So the learning curve wasn't necessarily the skillset but how to even play the maps.

Minor note: It's both, but the skillset issue still hasn't been resolved.

The difficulty from learning the skillset came from the fact that you had and still have to completely re-learn how to play under the Burst paradigm. It's an entirely different mindset and optimization from the DPS and total damage focused PvE. Whether to hold onto cooldowns or misalign cooldowns for more burst, GCD clipping and the importance of APM, positionals, DoTs, the value of uptime and CC... the considerations are drastically different. You can be a 95th percentile player in PvE and still fail gloriously if you don't ditch everything you've known so far and learn from scratch.

That's still a thing, though, more so than ever. They just gave you less abilities that you can use wrong.