Quote Originally Posted by Wintersandman View Post
Also if we want to get Technical, everyone in FF11 could PvP as well. So saying Final Fantasy didn't have PvP before is a weak argument and I didn't apply the counter argument I was just adding another PvP'ers hear often.
Well then you should know better than others. FF11 starts 1 year early in Japan before open to NA and Ballista was not installed until 6 months after NA release. I loved ballista and even participated in Ballista Royale, but PvP is nevertheless an after thought.

I also can't really recall any pvp centric mmorpg still survive on the market, can you?