Machinist class

[Linx0r]

Why didn’t they make MCH like Edgar from ff6 who can use chainsaws, drills, flashs, poison dispenser, debillitator etc. ? He was the original MCH. Why is the class a glorified cowboy? They could have made this class sooooooooo much better. Use a gunblade as main weapon with other tools I listed above as skills. Just asking what people’s thoughts are as I personally think this class should be a Gunner since that’s all they use

[Sylvain]

Why didn't they make the Samurai a heavy armored counter-attack tank?
Why did they give the Scholar a pet?
Why is the Dark knight not using his health to deal damage?

Because every FF universe is different and there are restriction lorewise and gameplay wise.
For instance, the job was created in Ishgard in FF14. They do not use Chainsaw and Drills. They're fighting dragons. When it comes to taking down a flying lizard, a gun is more suited than a chainsaw.
We don't acquire the job in Garlemald (or from someone working formerly working for them), we acquire it in a land where the only useful technology is a technology that kills dragon effectively.

My only disapointement with MCH is the lack of goodies. I was expecting a bit more interaction on the turret departments because the turret was highly advertised.

Perhaps in 6.0 they'll add your gunblade job with all your techno stuff.

[Aeliott]

They're actually kinda close to the Tactics incarnation. Or at least were before the Stormblood skill pruning. They could shoot specific body parts to cause certain disabilities. Like head shot (/graze) to silence, leg shot to immobilize etc.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

We unfortunately interact with our turrets LESS in Stormblood.

It IS a pet, but it's not a pet. I wouldn't mind if there were a turret hotbar per se, but that would change the dynamic of the job a lot, and for something already drastically changed from what it started as, a third change probably wouldn't be well accepted, especially for a job that's struggled in popularity since inception.

As a different idea, I wouldn't be against more gadgetry (not chainsaws and drills and such, more techy than that), even if only in attack animations. Kinda like the current Heated Clean Shot.

[Capn_Goggles]

Unfortunately for me, MCH is kind of stuck in its current niche of being ultra-focused on its burst window. Personally, it's my least favorite job in the entire game because of how utterly rigid its gameplay is, but it can't really be changed to alleviate that because it's not really fair to the people who LIKE that about it. Oh well, if we get a gunblade tank or something then I'll be one happy camper, but it's a shame that I like guns so much and they're tied to something I can't really enjoy in the slightest.

[Wintersandman]

An Edgar based class would be quite awesome. That chainsaw was amazing, especially with Sigmascape, would bring back so many memories. While I agree the FF universes are all different. FFXIV pulls A TON from FFVI. Monk should also have their LB 3 be Phantom Rush.

[Seraphor]

I just think MCH should been more of a selfish DPS like SAM/BLM, instead of just being a bard wannabe.
With more investment in turrets and pseudo pet constructs.

[whiskeybravo]

I just think MCH should been more of a selfish DPS like SAM/BLM, instead of just being a bard wannabe.
With more investment in turrets and pseudo pet constructs.

Why is that, so they become undesirable? Lol

We already had bard-only back in ARR and it was pretty terrible. Even now they both offer so much utility you are really gimping yourself to not have one or the other in your static group.

The answer is not to restrict utility to one (or a few) job(s). Either give them all a fair amount of utility to make each of them desirable for raiding, or get rid of all of utility so there's no reason to discriminate.

@OP:

I mean, we get to throw a wrench at monsters.. That's not enough?

[Linx0r]

An Edgar based class would be quite awesome. That chainsaw was amazing, especially with Sigmascape, would bring back so many memories. While I agree the FF universes are all different. FFXIV pulls A TON from FFVI. Monk should also have their LB 3 be Phantom Rush.

I completely agree i do respect that all FF worlds are different, however it would have been nice to see at least a couple items taken away from Edgar's toolkit and put into MCH. I love how much of 6 is in FF14, and since that game holds a very special place in my heart, i want to see even more of it.

PS. before Phantom Rush, it was called Bum Rush xD and it would be wild amazing crazy cool to see that incorporated into MNK

[Wintersandman]

Bum Rush

I know Phantom Rush didn't sound right but my brain was failing me. Thanks for bringing that back.