The general player base needs to improve

[MoroMurasaki]

Maybe you are right and the OPs argument is just incorrect. If it is how you say (most people try)

I was kind of waiting for an edit here (since this post ends with a parenthesis and not a period or a sentence at all really) but I never said most players try I said some do outside of your black and white boxes of 'Savage raider' and 'everyone else does nothing'.

I have hardly ever done any Savage (largely just O1S and O2S which is widely regarded as not real Savage) but I have orange parses in Rabanastre and I've outdpsed friends of mine who do raid.

If you see gearing up in Savage as the final goalpost in this game I feel bad for you. There's a ton of stuff to do especially as a casual player. Arguing people aren't motivated enough by the lack of rewards is kind of asinine to me - they aren't motivated because they don't need to be since they can clear all the content in the game while playing fairly poorly especially if they find themselves in the right group.

Ahem...
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Now for my actual post...

The instances to "git gud" are already in place. The logical progression at level 70 should be Expert Roulettes > 24 Man raids > 8 man raids > EX primals >*Savage > Ultimate. It's just not tight enough in it's difficulty to demand the player to step up all the way from the EX primals step. 3 out of the 4 EX primals we had this expansion are laughing stock. In no way do they prepare you for whatever Savage will bring you.

I laughed pretty hard at the start of that but you've also outlined a feeling that I've had for quite a while now absolutely perfectly.

I am on the EX primals step of this ladder and I feel like I'm stuck there because the leap to Savage is so intimidating. Logically I understand I could probably do it but I just feel like I'm going to be instantly overwhelmed and disappoint my group.

That is the biggest bridge that needs building in this game in my opinion.