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    Nedkel's Avatar
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    Chloe Lehideux
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    Stone, Sky, Sea should be a requirement for getting savage content of the game.
    After beating a certain dummy in it, the player should be rewarded with the access to certain duty, and not being given for free like a candy on Christmass.

    Stone, Sky, Sea is a bare minimum for the player to pass the run, its a good way to test yourself out, so it should be necessary to beat it in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    Stone, Sky, Sea should be a requirement for getting savage content of the game.
    After beating a certain dummy in it, the player should be rewarded with the access to certain duty, and not being given for free like a candy on Christmass.

    Stone, Sky, Sea is a bare minimum for the player to pass the run, its a good way to test yourself out, so it should be necessary to beat it in the first place.
    Oh man, I was INCREDIBLY disappointed at what Stone Sky Sea ended up to be. They sort of sold it as a training palace, I'm sure they mentioned you could practice parts of fights, I thought maybe they'd have leaderboards of top deeps on a dummy, I thought it was gonna be fun. Ugh. I guess they cut it all back.
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    Lae Shan
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    That's because this game is catering too much to these player base,
    The difficulty of MSQ quest & leveling contents are one of the easiest I've seen in a MMO.

    In ARR beta, the Ul'dah LV14(or15?) MSQ boss fight is harder than now, I wiped twice,
    then figured out I've to use one Antidote(a reward of previous quest) to cure the poison debuff. it was a tricky design, I like it

    but in the retail version, the boss fight is super easy, quite boring
    because some people complained it's too hard in the forum, and SE listened to them....
    because the contents are designed under such standard, then more cry babies will stay, more players that seek for challenging, or normal difficulty contents, will leave
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    Last edited by ShanXiv; 03-02-2018 at 10:42 PM.

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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShanXiv View Post
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    It was only hard because the Poison ticked for around 20-30 damage per second (probably). Even having an antidote on hand wasn't enough to save you from death, since the boss would just do it again (and Antidote would then be on cool down). DPS pretty much needed to have Cure cross-classed so they wouldn't have to worry too much about the Poison.

    Anyway, you haven't touched/cleared Extreme Primals since Ravana EX. SE have also been making the dungeon bosses in SB a little more interesting compared to ARR and HW bosses. They actually have (although easy to learn) mechanics! And ignoring them could get you KO'd! I think it might be safe to say that the dungeons we have now are tougher than what Pharos Sirius originally was in 2.1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    It was only hard because the Poison ticked for around 20-30 damage per second (probably). Even having an antidote on hand wasn't enough to save you from death, since the boss would just do it again (and Antidote would then be on cool down). DPS pretty much needed to have Cure cross-classed so they wouldn't have to worry too much about the Poison.

    Anyway, you haven't touched/cleared Extreme Primals since Ravana EX. SE have also been making the dungeon bosses in SB a little more interesting compared to ARR and HW bosses. They actually have (although easy to learn) mechanics! And ignoring them could get you KO'd! I think it might be safe to say that the dungeons we have now are tougher than what Pharos Sirius originally was in 2.1.
    I've mentioned many times before: I am a casual or mid-core player now, I don't like the "jume rope" things, had played too much of these in WOW.

    if I want to raid, if I want to play hardcore things again, I will play WOW.
    but after I tried XIV1.1x-1.2x, I felt like I've finally found my true love MMO , really like the mid-core & party contents, and the community, they are more fun & memorable than WOW & ARR

    After I bought the diablo3 ,I told myself I will not buy & play Blizzard games anymore, but now ARR is a WOW clone... the graphics, music & stories are good though
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShanXiv View Post
    I've mentioned many times before: I am a casual or mid-core player now, I don't like the "jume rope" things, had played too much of these in WOW.
    Again, Extreme Primals is midcore content. Why else would I keep bringing it up? I recommend you try Lakshmi, Susano and Byakko Extreme.

    Fun story, Byakko bugged out and got four people in my group KO'd (myself included). We contemplated on just wiping it, but instead we pushed on. Tank LB3'd as per usual and the healers gradually raises us. We still beat Byakko despite the huge DPS loss and we never saw Enrage. My static is also casual/mid-core, yet we still do Savage and Extremes because why not? It's fun and something to do.
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    I really don't know. I'm kinda hopeless with people. Even though the f*** up, remain silent and they are awfully bad, I have tried everything and they never seemed to receive these pieces of advice (Either ignoring them or just replying in a rude manner) so if I queue up with my squad and we find them, I just kick them. I know it's not ideal, as I don't know the true reasons why they play like that but seriously, it gets old.
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    Rhulk Roegan
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    One of the best patches to be released to this date in the game was when they released Weeping city and Nidhog EX together.
    It was deffintly a jump in difficulty for the kind of content it was.
    There are more parties that can beat Byako ex in PF than level 70 parties who can beat Nidhog EX unsynced and that says a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalwrath View Post
    One of the best patches to be released to this date in the game was when they released Weeping city and Nidhog EX together.
    It was deffintly a jump in difficulty for the kind of content it was.
    There are more parties that can beat Byako ex in PF than level 70 parties who can beat Nidhog EX unsynced and that says a lot.
    Let's take this to another level - there are more parties capable of beating Byakko Ex than there are of beating Hashmal in Rabanastre.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    Let's take this to another level - there are more parties capable of beating Byakko Ex than there are of beating Hashmal in Rabanastre.
    Which is sad considering my experiences with Byakko ex. The last time I ran it my co tank messed up his timing for one of the tank swaps and a sam ended up being grabbed and died. The sam just constantly started shit talking both my co tank and I after that saying we couldn't do our jobs and whatnot...the best part being that even when he didn't die to tank mistakes he still was doing less damage than either of us...as a sam. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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