What is the General Consensus?

[shao32]

i preffer dont point to anyone but please stop puting down WAR kit like "have tons of weakness you complaing to much".

if we analyze every tank defensive kit we have:

PLD:
shield oath: reduce 20% damage recive and 15% damage penalty, 600mp cost gdc, cost so much dps over all, there is no way to avoid this except turning off
rampart: universal 20% reduction 20 sec,90 sec recast
sentinel: 40% mitigation 10 sec, 180 seconds recast.
bulwark: 60% block rate 15sec, 180 sec basicly fluff damage.
sheltron: insta block next attack 10 seconds, 50 gauge cost.
hallowed ground: inmune 10 seconds, 420 recast.
pasive block: have a chance to block any incoming attack by X amount depending of the shield.

PLD utility:
cover: take 80% of damage recive by targeret player 12 sec, 120 sec, pretty situational and hard execution need a lot of pre planing to execute it smoothly.
divine veil: barrier to all except you of 10% of you own hp 30 seconds, 120 recast, helpfull, moderate execution, the barrier only cover 7 members.
clemency: 1200 potency heal, you recover 50% of heal dealt if you use it on someone else, 1440 mp, usefull, cost dps at the end.
intervetion: reduce target damage recive by 10%, 50% if you use rampath or sentinel,6 sec, cost 50 gauge, same as cover, can be usefull on help you tank for TB, hard execution on someone else.
passage of arms: 100% block rate, reduce 15% to every one behind you in the cone, 18 seconds, 120 recast, you cant do any action or the effect is interrupted, pretty situational, is a dps waste outside of untargeted aoes.

resume: PLD have 5 active mitigation tools with long recast all of then cover magic and phisical, and all they utility is pretty situational and need a lot of pre planing to being used properly, 2 of then are directly a dps lost, 3 if you count activate yourself divine veil, and intervetion is the only utility you can use easily on every fight on you MT for TB or other for help.

DRK:

grit: reduce damage recive by 20%, 20% damage penalty, cost 1800 mp + gcd, extremly expensive skill and same as shield, cost tons of dps overall and no way to avoid it excep you turn it off lossing with it self heals and blood price, you cant use blood weapon on grit.
rampart: universal 20% reduction 20 sec,90 sec recast
shadow wall: 30% mitigation 10 seconds, 180 sec recast
dark mind: 15% magic mitigation, 30% magic mitigation if you use dark art with is a 140 potency loss to use the maximun mitigation, resume a complety waste, 10 sec, 60 sec recast.
The Blackest Night: 20% you own HP shield on yourself, 10% of you hp on others, cost 2400 mp, 15 sec recast, if breaks you get 50 blood, out grit break the shield translate most of the time in a dps loss by just a few point of potency and sometimes a microscopic gain, i say is dps neutral to dont get in disscusions about this, on grit is a dps gain always but you dealt with grit penaltys on the other hand.
living dead: grant a buff of 10 seconds, if you hp is reduce to 0 you get walking dead 10 seconds, you cant die on walking dead but if you arent heal by the same amout of you maximun hp before the effect ends you die, example, if you have 50k of hp when walking dead apears you need to be heal 50k in total to get the debuff remove.

DRK utility:

The Blackest Night: 10% of you own hp as a shield on other cost 2400, if its breaks you get 50 blood


resume: TBN (the blackest night) is the only drk utility, is dps neutral in optimal play and have chances of being a huge dps loose if the shield dosent breaks, the magic mitigation (dark mind) is a huge dps loose to use it on maximun effect so DRK mitigation is reduce to rampart and shadow wall combined with TBN-dark mind or both at the same time on most fights meaning they phisical mitigation is pretty lower and no effective fluff mitigation tools.

WAR:

defiance: increse you hp by 25% with 20% damage pentalty,20% healing bonus from healing magic, no resource cost + ogdc, unlock 1200 heal potency on equilibrium and unchained can be used to remove damage penalty 20 sec every 90 sec.
rampart: universal 20% reduction 20 sec,90 sec recast
inner beast: 350 potency attack, ignores defiance penalty, absorbs a portion of damage as hp and reduce 20% damage 6 sec.
vengeance: mitigates 30% damage recive and dealt 55 potency counterattacks every time you being hit during 15 sec, 120 seconds recast.
thrill of Battle: Increases maximum HP by 20% and restores the amount increased 20 sec 120 recast.
raw intuition: 100% parry 20 seconds, 90 seconds recast
equilibrium (defiance): restores 1200 hp every 60 seconds, recover 200tp on deliverance.
holmgang: you hp cannot be reduce less that 1hp, pulls the target to you and you are bind to the ground during 6 sec every 180 seconds, requre a objective.

WAR utility:
shake it off: barrier of 8% of maximun hp to the entire team including yourself 15 sec every 90 sec, remove Thrill of Battle, Inner Beast, Vengeance, and Raw Intuition to buff the barier by 4% for each effect removed.

resume: as some try to make it look worse that it is defiance is mathematically the same as grit and shield in terms of mitigation, request a small heal bcs you dont recover the hp you increse but ignoring that defiance its the same efective hp as DRK on grit or PLD on shield.
defiance is the best tank stance of the game as they can swift with deliverance by no resource cost and both being ofcg and the damage penalty can be ignored by unchained, hp increse means buffing Upheaval potency meaning the 5% dps lost by not being on deliverance being minimun, of course we are talking about optimal play where you only get in to defiance on unchained windows, so you can enjoy you fell cleaves.

defensive toolkit in general have pretty short recast, on my own opinion have excesive lower colddowns, vengeance mitigates much as shadow wall and offeers a counter attack on it with longer duraction and only 120 seconds, just 30 seconds more that rampart, and holmgang have 180 seconds, so in terms of general mitigation holmgang is like a shadow wall/ sentinel that cant kill you during 6 s.
so if we translate this to a real combat DRK and PLD cicle rampart and shadow wall/sentinel plus other skills for every TB while warriors can cicle rampart/vengeance with thrill of battle or raw intuition or just rampart with vengeance and leave the next TB in case rampart is not up again to homgang and equilibrium resulting they can ignore inner beast complety and in some degree raw intuition to being exclusive fluff mitigation on phisical autoattacks, this result on making WAR the best defensive job right now staking many cds and abuse freely of holmgang, this in other hand limited WAR on some raid strats where 1 tank skip a shared/switch mechanic if the mechanic itself is far from a targeteable objective, but there is no solo tank metas right now so its not even a problem.

shake it off at contrary to PLD/DRK utility is a straight buff, shor recast make it being up for almost every raid aoe without no preplaning request on it and can be buffed with the defensive tools WAR is not using that moment to surpass divine veil easily.

general resume:

in general PLD and WAR are pretty ok while WAR enjoy most freedom to do things that the other 2 need to squeeze and work harder to do the same, DRK is simple and while TBN is strong by itself is not as strong as many try prove, its just in the place is have to be and they own risk make pretty hard to use it outside TB/raid aoes.
in utility WAR is pretty universal and more helpfull in general with PLD only shines in specific situations but have the number of tools to have at least 1 or 3 of then helpfull for every fight, DRK on other hand utility is almost non exists without being punished somehow, is helpfull to suport you MT in the case you are OT on every TB, but as i mentioned before tend to ends as a dps loss, and PLD/WAR have no issues to survive except they get a vulneravility stack or something, on other party members is pretty hard to use it for any emergency, more that cover if you ask me with the tight MP control we have to manage and targeting the person at time.

if we go to the dps department, WAR have a clear lead right now whit a PLD on second place, DRK is the lowest in every situation mostly by desing flaws on real combat and nonsense balance choices, while WAR probably its going to be nerf a bit in this field to get pre rework levels of dps where was perfect, DRK on the other hand need to surpass WAR in dps if we have in mind the utility both jobs have but that another discusion for another day.

sorry for the wall